"Blackblade" wrote in message ...

Edward Dolan wrote:

A good place to start would be Mr. Vandeman’s emails provided
you are fortunate enough to get on his list. Another good way would be to do a
Google search on the Internet under an appropriate subject heading. Hikers are
constantly being harassed and injured by thug mountain bikers.

Vandeman's list, which he gleans from internet feeds across the globe, shows a tiny number of incidents proportional to the overall number of rides happening every day.

You've gone from stating that there are incidents every day at a specific location then, when called to provide facts to back that assertion, you have reverted to generalities. You will forgive me if I therefore consider your assertion, at least for the moment, disproved (or unproven).

Glean you own reports. They are there for the gleaning. I NEVER do anyone else’s work for them!

When an attack borders on being terminally stupid, then you
are going to get what you deserve. It is part of My Greatness!
[...]

“It is mainly older people who are dying of heart disease.” – Ed
Dolan

Great example of circular logic Ed. You simply restate your assertion. Did you bother to go to the World Health Organisation website to actually check the data ? I guess not. Risk of death from heart disease has risen, in the developed world, in the last ten years in the 25-44 and 45-54 age sectors. Your assertion is REFUTED.

“It is mainly older people who are dying of heart disease.” – Ed Dolan

The mark of Cain is upon you. “Hey, I want to do what I want
to do.” You are a childish boob who only knows the language of force. Mr.
Vandeman and I are working on that. We will get all you kiddies banned from our
sacred hiking trails sooner or later. It is just a matter of time.

Childish Ed. For a stated atheist you employ quite a lot of religious absolutism to your rhetoric.

I am calling you a moral bankrupt for what you do to trails with your bike.

Have I ever advocated the use of force ? No, I leave that to you and Vandeman with your language of conflict and sick satisfaction in the death and injury of others.

You are the transgressor. The only force I am advocating is authorized force. However, hikers would be well advised to enter wilderness areas with a concealed weapon on their person since so many bikers are thugs.

Not millions – only jerks like you who think you have a right
to something you have no right to. What's the matter? Can’t walk?

I have no right to a PUBLIC resource ? Your sense of entitlement is rather overwhelming.

No right at all. Public resources must be allocated according to intelligent management. That lets you and your ilk out.

And I have stated previously again and again that a public
resource must must be managed intelligently, not stupidly for the likes of you
and your ilk. What you are doing is nothing short of vandalism, physical and
mental, to a scarce and precious resource. There is no requirement that
everything must be shared. Are you just pretending to be stupid or is it for
real?

You have stated it, and I've refuted it, again and again. Your argument comes down to "I don't like it" and you seem to believe that this justifies your position. You've thrown loads of assertions but, when challenged, you can't back them up which might, if you think about it, cause you to rethink the assertions;

There are loads of hiker/biker accidents so it's too dangerous : REFUTED
It's more environmentally damaging than hiking : REFUTED
It's aesthetically unappealing to you : INVALID REASONS TO ALLOCATE PUBLIC RESOURCE
It's an 'incorrect' use of a public resource : NO FACTS TO BACKUP ASSERTION

Nothing has been refuted. Whoever heard of anyone who takes the “refutations” of mountain bikers seriously. You are nothing but a hot air windbag who wouldn’t know a fact if it jumped up and bit you on your ass. And your logic is as screwy as your facts.

Right now I feel as if I'm arguing with a religious fanatic. You know the type; you beat them logically but, when it comes down to it, they simply tell you that this is just because you don't really understand and that their belief system allows them to know that they're right.

Your logic is as twisted as your morality ... self serving to the core. Have you no shame!

I'm sorry, but that's what I'm getting here and I'm starting to think it's a waste of time arguing. A fanatic can't be swayed by logic ... it's a belief system.

I agree that there is no point in going over the same old issues over and over.

I can throw facts and logic at you all day and, at the end, you'll still think you're right even if I demolish every assertion.

The only assertions that are being demolished are yours. Let’s leave it to the readers of this thread to draw their own conclusions.

Of course not. You are a selfish spoiled child who wants to do
what you want to do We adults will have to take you in hand and teach you
the ways of the world.

Oh, I'm being selfish am I ? I'm the one who readily conceded that some trails shouldn't be shared. You're the one who's asserting that all hiking trails are for your exclusive use. Your greatness is definitely slipping Ed ... go get some facts to backup your assertions and I might listen again ... but, right now, I'm about done with you.

I should be so lucky that you are done with me! The fact is that I just plain don’t like mountain bikers doing their thing on hiking trails. And I don’t like those who defend what it is they do. You are wrongheaded about everything having to do with this subject. And yes, you are indeed selfish ... and morally corrupt to boot. Purgatory awaits you in the next world.

Ed Dolan the Great
aka
Saint Edward the Great