On 03/12/2019 20:38, TMS320 wrote:
On 03/12/2019 13:46, JNugent wrote:
On 03/12/2019 13:34, TMS320 wrote:
On 03/12/2019 12:38, JNugent wrote:
On 03/12/2019 12:08, TMS320 wrote:

However, the main argument (on u.r.c) is about certain drivers
Â*claiming that cyclists are evil pedestrian killers. The main
culprit x-posted this.

Only *some* cyclists are "evil pedestrian killers".

It's usually only cyclists (who don't ride fixies) that backpedal.

"Evil pedestrian killers" is, of course, *your* phrase and
certainly not mine. But it is a very telling one and I am
grateful for your coinage of it.

I don't claim you said it and will take the credit, if that is what
Â*you want. But I will maintain that it is a summary of you stand
for.

I do indeed stand four-square for the rights of pedestrians on
footways and in pedestrian-only zones.

Drivers can't physically get to all the places that cyclists can reach
and cyclists can't physically do all the things that drivers can do.

So what?

The law about what either group may do is not unclear because of it.

You always set very narrow limits such as "a driver never does [whatever
a cyclist is supposedly doing wrong]". Well actually, sometimes they do.
And worse. And produce serious outcomes for mistakes and incompetence.

But you don't, do you?

Speaking as a pedestrian, cyclists are not a big deal. There is no need
to treat laws as binary constructs.

Thank you for (at last) admitting that you do not care for the rights,
safety and welfare of pedestrians in any situation where those things
are in conflict with the whims and desires of law-breaking chavs on bikes.