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Old January 11th 18, 11:31 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Andre Jute[_2_]
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On Thursday, January 11, 2018 at 6:22:27 PM UTC, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 1/11/2018 12:31 PM, sms wrote:
On 1/11/2018 2:57 AM, Sepp Ruf wrote:
Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 4:46:01 PM UTC, Frank Krygowski wrote:

But unlike aluminum ones, stainless steel bars are
very rare, if not nonexistent.

Just because your weight-weenie, replace after one season or die,
racer LBS
doesn't carry them?Â* Chances are it doesn't offer full Joergian-strength
cromo bars either.

I chuckled at your "non-existent" stainless steel bars. It's so dumb,
nobody will believe it. I have two stainless steel handlebars on
bikes in
the loft, and probably more in boxes of components. One I chose from the
Humpert catalogue to be fitted to my Utopia Kranich as a temporary
measure
just to see how I liked something different from my normal North Road
Bars.
In Europe Humpert bars are the mainstream for upscale bikes, and they're
nutters for testing components. If they list stainless bars, you may be
absolutely certain there is nothing wrong with stainless bars.

You should check your facts, Franki-boy.
Andre Jute
Always happy to help

PS The Humpert catalogue also comes in English

http://ergotec.de/files/service/downloads/Humpert-Katalog_2018.pdf

A few shapes I remember Utopia offers, or at least used to offer, in
stainless steel aren't in ergotec's 2018 issue.Â* They might slowly get
replaced by "MAS-Nb" steel.Â* But it still shows some.


You can also order stainless steel bars via Aliexpress, the consumer
branch of Alibaba:

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Bicycle-stainless-steel-Arcuate-one-shaped-handlebar-retro-Vintage-bike-handlebar-city-commuter-recreational-old-cycling/32730342044.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Bicycle-stainless-steel-swallow-shaped-handlebar-retro-Vintage-bike-handlebar-city-commuter-recreational-old-bar/32654022918.html

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Bicycle-Accessories-stainless-steel-U-shaped-handlebar-bend-to-the-retro-Vintage-bike-handlebar-city-commuter/32653525372.html


I think there's only a very short list of things one _cannot_ buy from
China.


Crap. I buy stuff from China all the time, and the holes in their manufacture lists really display the perils of central planning, for instance by massive overproduction of the most popular items with zero production of useful, needful and wanted but less popular items. You shouldn't spout forth on economics, Franki-boy. You don't know **** about it.

The presence of an item on Ali Express doesn't indicate its popularity,
let alone its value.


Oh, dear. More cod-economics from Franki-boy. In fact, what the presence of an item on Aliexpress signals is precisely it's popularity or perceived popularity. See also above.

As for value, you're behind the times, Franki-boy. It used to be that the Japanese manufacturer of high-value high-voltage hi-fi I designed for him had to go to China and throw items not built to the spec I approved on the floor, and indulge in shouting matches, to get components I wouldn't reject when the production sample arrived, but that was fifteen. twenty years ago. You're just ignorant and prejudiced, Krygowski.

As for value, the Chinese offer superb value to those who know what they want and how to evaluate it. Much of what you buy in America under familiar brand names is made in China.

- Frank Krygowski


Why are the opinions you peddle so useless, and ofttimes untrue, Franki-boy?

Andre Jute
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