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Old July 12th 17, 04:12 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Kerr Mudd-John
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On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 14:26:47 +0100, JNugent wrote:

On 11/07/2017 14:25, TMS320 wrote:
On 11/07/17 02:41, JNugent wrote:
On 10/07/2017 22:23, TMS320 wrote:


Doesn't that demolish (once and for all) the futile attacks on Road
Tax as a concept?

Not really. The fund (if it comes about) will go to roads yet to be
built, not existing ones.

Where does it say that?


I have assumed it from other articles which I can't be bothered to find.
I have also seen mention that it will contribute to a "pothole fund".
(Except the government seems to remain fixated on a tax based on a
flawed test of CO2 output, whatever that has to do with pothole
development.)

Despite the announcement that has just been made, I am not aware of
any new A-routes or motorways planned. Are you?
...end of decade, hmmm.

Thirty months away.

One hundred and twenty nine weeks.

Plenty of time for a new regime to change its mind.

It'll take that long to spend the money aleady committed.

What the UK needs, though (and you hint at it above), is a couple of
new long-disctance motorways which steer clear of existing urban
areas, have only a limited number of interchanges and do not, in
practice, cater for journeys of much less than a hundred miles.


Agreed. But the problem is also how to avoid the spread of urban areas
so such roads end up as local feeders after 20 years. We also have the
problem of how to build traffic relief without encouraging an increase
in traffic. I expect we need to accelerate a move from blunt taxes to
pay to drive.


The answer to that problem is to have very few interchanges (essentially
only with other motorways and primary routes crossed by the line of the
new motorways and not even all of them.

For instance, a route starting at the Channel Tunnel and running to
(say) Preston could interchange with:

- M20 (obviously),
- M2 at Gravesend (maybe), then a new Thames crossing, then
- M11 near Harlow,
- A14 in the Kettering area,
- M1 near Loughborough,
- A50 (Uttoxeter),
- M62 near Risley then express to
- M6 at Bamber Bridge and then again at
- Garstang, with a spur to the M55.

About 325 miles with only seven intermediate interchanges. It would be
important not to have one immediately south of the Mersey in order to
preclude use of the new road as an alternative to the Thelwall Viaduct.
Cheshire-bound traffic from the south could join A50 and thence M6 via
the A500.

Another idea would be continuously-monitored (controllable) access at
all intermediate junctions, with access for joining traffic closed
completely and immediately in conditions likely to lead to overload and
congestion (in effect, reserving the new road for longer-distance
traffic as far as possible). The traffic excluded by such controls would
still have access to the existing route (in the case of the above route,
M20, M25, A282, M25, M1, M6).


I'm sure this is a fun and lovely way to spend taxpayers money. But it's nowt to do with cycling


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