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Old September 10th 19, 11:04 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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Default Pavement parking to be banned?

On 10/09/2019 10:36, TMS320 wrote:

On 10/09/2019 00:41, JNugent wrote:
On 10/09/2019 00:27, TMS320 wrote:
On 09/09/2019 12:34, JNugent wrote:
On 09/09/2019 11:18, Simon Mason wrote:


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...r-drivers.html

Whereabout is the mention of the cyclist?

I often leave my bike at home and use the pavement. Sometimes I also
stand still on it.


How interesting (sigh).
So whereabout is the mention of the cyclist which makes it an on-topic
post?


Some members of the group (including you) frequently claim that stories
about a person that is not actually cycling are on topic for a cycling
group. Cos they're a cyclist, innit.


Posts about cyclists and cycling in a cycling NG are on topic. Posts
about other things, which do not involve cycling, bicycles or cyclists
are not in topic.

Even you should be able to understand that. But you imply that you don't.

Are we to assume that you also dsapprove of the chaining of bicycles
to street furniture and other property adjoing footways?

Do you ever walk anywhere where you find this is a problem? It's
usuall better to deal with bigger problems first.


Are things only a problem if they impact me, then?


That is frequently the way things work.


Maybe for you. Not for me. For me, it's principle first. I don't
actually expect you to comprehend that. In fact, I confidently expect
you not to understand it.

Do you ever walk anywhere? It's an easy to question to answer but you
always swerve away.


Why does it matter?

As it happens, I don't often travel to anywhere significant on foot
because I live in a village. Foot journeys are local and primarily for
exercise (or part of a holiday, exercised elsewhere, naturally). I very
rarely travel by publictransport, though. Life isn't like that here.

I ask that because I also never have problems with cars parked on the
footway - but that doesn't mean that I either approve of that or
oppose moves to prevent it.


Do you ever walk anywhere?


That has nothing to do with the subject or with you and you raise it
purely as a diversion, but see above anyway.

And reflect on today's word: principle (not that it means much to you).

But for reasons of your own (I wonder what they could be?), you think
it's alright to block footways with parked or semi-abandoned bikes,
but (apparently) not cars.


First rule of a social group:
One says they prefer apples to pears. The response is "oh, so you hate
oranges."


You think it's alright to block footways with bicycles and the evidence
for that is that you don't see the need for addressing it. Or at least,
so you say.

Sensible people, on the other hand, oppose obstruction of the footway
with *anything*, including cars, vans and bicycles. And not always -
probably not even usually - because they are personally adversely
affected.


Sensible people try to solve the biggest problems first.


And devious people like to pretend that other peoples' problems are too
minor to ever be addressed.

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