On 22/12/2017 10:04, Nightjar wrote:
On 21-Dec-17 11:36 PM, Nick Finnigan wrote:
On 21/12/2017 12:47, Nightjar wrote:
On 20-Dec-17 6:22 PM, Nick Finnigan wrote:
On 18/12/2017 17:36, Nightjar wrote:

They are talking of 20mph zones. A 20mph speed limit can be reversed
simply by issuing the necessary traffic order and removing the signs.
A 20mph zone has to be designed to be self-enforcing, which means lots
of traffic calming measures.

Â*Â*It doesn't have to be: all of the recent 20mph zones in Lancashire
just have new signs on poles....

Are you sure they are 20mph zones, which have the word ZONE under the
20mph speed limit sign at the start of the zone, and not simply areas
with a 20mph limit, which don't have the word ZONE and, if long enough,
will have 20mph repeater signs?

Â*Â*Most people, including metro reporters would refer to them as zones.
Lancashire refer to them as areas; BathNES refer to them as rural areas.


Which is why I asked. If they are not officially designated as 20mph zones,
but simply have a 20mph limit, traffic calming measures are optional.

According to the 2013 circular ...
"These new arrangements should significantly reduce the requirement for
signing and traffic calming features. Traffic authorities can now
incorporate wider areas within a 20 mph zone, by effectively signing
20mph speed limits on distributor roads where traffic calming features are
not suitable, or for small individual roads or stretches of road, where
mean speeds are already at or below 24 mph. "