BrianW wrote:

On 19 Jan, 06:39, Tom Crispin
wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:14:33 -0800 (PST), BrianW





wrote:
On 18 Jan, 22:18, Tom Crispin
wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:46:51 -0800 (PST), BrianW

wrote:
The evidence has to show that the defendant was grossly
negligent - it's a higher standard than ordinary negligence.
?The CPS will decide whether there is sufficient evidence to
warrant prosecution before it gets before a jury.

Perhaps ordinary negligence should suffice, especially if it
makes drivers take more care.

Really? *So you'd be in favour of applying the civil law
definition of negligence (failure to take reasonable care towards
a person to whom you owe a duty of care) to all killings. *Gosh,
the jails will fill up rather quickly.

Or perhaps you are only in favour of such a move in respect of
killer drivers? *If so, I offer you "causing death by dangerous
driving" and "causing death by careless driving".

Are you another of these people, like Doug, who likes to criticise
things without bothering to find out anything about it? *It would
seem so ...

A man who shot and killed his son was charged with manslaughter.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1494...n-on-night-tim
e...

Why should killing with a car be treated differently from killing
with a gun?-

Oh my God, you really are Doug Bollen, aren't you?

As you are such an expert on this, you will obviously know the
following stats/information:

1. Average sentence handed down for manslaughter
2. Average sentence handed down for causing death by dangerous
driving.
3. Sentencing guidelines for causing death by dangerous driving.

You'll be able to show us, using the above, that the law treats
motorists more leniently than other, non-deliberate, killers.

Go ahead ...

I've responded elsewhere in the thread with sources but to answer your
1&2: 1996-2004, average manslaughter sentence approx 60 months; causing
death by DD averaged 35 months in 1999 rising to 44 months in 2004.

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John