On Mar 16, 1:08 am, "Peter Signorini"
wrote:
"Bleve" wrote:

I thought freeways were a different (special) case though? My
understanding was that a normal gazetted road was open to all
'vehicles' (which, AFAIK, includes bicycles).

Correct by my understanding (I'll have to double check the road rules)

Is there a sign that says specifically "No bikes" or "Bicyclists
prohibited"? Because that would be needed to stand up under the law. And
even then I believe it would only apply to a freeway as they have special
rules. A public road is just that - a road for the public to use, using
whatever legally recognized vehicle they are travelling in/on.

This joke of an issue reminds me of the main road into Korumburra. Check it
out in your Vicroads directory. A normal main road that is marked in green:
4 kms of 'freeway' coming into Korumburra from Melbourne. Most country
freeways you can now ride on, and this one is (I think) no exception. But
back in the early 80s freeway riding was banned for bikes. That made 4 kms
of ordinary two-lane highway an illegal ride by the letter of the law

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Cheers
Peter

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I think the right way to manage this for the "Hell Ride" is to
designate it an official event
that is held every week at the same time. Then put traffic conditions
on all of the
roads, including Frankston that apply at that time that make it safe
for the race and the
cars to be present.

So, for example, 7am - 9am, on section X, there is a lane (obviously
the leftmost lane) where cars have to give preference to bicycle
groups in progress. This needs designated signage. As the ride
progresses south, the
conditions move with the ride.

Given that the car traffic is very light at this time, this should not
impede car traffic. But it
does require the riders to use only a single lane. This work at
Olivers Hill, in that cars would veer
right and use the right lane up the hill.

I still don't think you can mix a group race with normal car traffic
without some conditions.
This avoids banning cars completely from the road (unlikely to be
achieved), and requires some
discipline from the racers. Nobody is ever going to support the group
running red lights.

[You can see I've given it some thought, and decided the Hell Ride is
more important than
the car traffic at that time of day. ]