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Old March 31st 18, 08:10 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Joerg[_2_]
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Default MTB disc brake caused wild fire

On 2018-03-31 09:28, jbeattie wrote:
On Saturday, March 31, 2018 at 8:03:54 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-03-29 18:28, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 5:25:55 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski
wrote:
On 3/29/2018 5:34 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
sms wrote:
On 3/27/2018 7:39 AM, Joerg wrote:

Hydraulics also can suffer from sudden fade and that's
scary. Then they require bleeding which, depending on the
kind, is a messy business. On mine particularly so
because there is no bleed kit for them. Cable disc brakes
are fine for pavement riding, just not for heavy duty MTB
riding.

Avoid hydraulic disc brakes at all costs. Stick to
mechanical disc brakes.



Which require constant adjustments as the pads wear, have
cables that weather eats, etc.

All my bikes have disks the CX/gravel/adventure road? Is
cable the others are hydraulic.

The cable is a lot more fuss, the Hydros just work, once set
up you feed them pads which is very easy.

Personally as someone who rides off-road plus high (ish)
miles commuting disks and preferably Hydro are game changers
in terms of performance and maintenance.

In terms of stuff like power, there is quite a overlap
between the two, my gravel bikes cable disks is about as
powerful as the old commute MTB with its older and cheaper
Hydro brakes, both are embarrassing weak compared to my Full
suspension MTB.

"Embarrassingly weak" sounds strange to me. Aren't you really
talking about overall mechanical advantage - that is, lever
force vs. braking force?

Practical braking force, especially off-road, is limited by
traction and/or by risk of pitchover. I fail to see why
getting that amount of force from a one pound lever force is
better than getting it from a two pound lever force. I can
squeeze a two pound force all day.

Gads, I'm afraid to ride home on my cable discs, and I might
even ride home on this odd-ball trail:
https://swtrails.files.wordpress.com...er-freeway.jpg





In California might not want to. There'd be a sizeable homeless camp
under there and they might not like it when someone rolls through
"their" turf.


I rode home up this trail:
http://fot.delaris.com/images/upload...ail__large.jpg
It's f****** steep -- steeper than it looks, and it narrows. I
stalled out near the top and got stuck on a section with a little
leafy cliff to the left. I had to scooter to a place where I could
swing my leg over the saddle. That's the problem with CX bikes and
high BBs.



Sometimes it helps to just lay yourself into the uphill side vegetation
and roll off the bike with the hillside leg stretched backwards. Of
course, one first has to ascertain whether something lives in the
vegetation that might object to being squished.


... I was also on semi-slicks, and I was probably not supposed
to be on the trail in the first place. One gets bored with the usual
routes home and does stupid things.


I do that a lot with my road bike. Oh, there is a nice little trail!
Wish I was on my MTB. Ah, heck, lets ride it anyhow.


The homeless people are back in the woods but more on the actual
paved bike paths. I attempted to ride home on this trail (from the
bottom up) and ran into a bunch of camp sites.



Similar here, though many have moved to Sacramento because they elected
a major who keeps promising them freebies. Oh well, that's no my tax
dollars. Most are friendly but there is the occasional burly looking guy
who is clearly mentally off his rocker. Where it has gotten really bad
is the Western part of the American River bike Path. Cyclists have been
attacked by pitbulls from homeless people, rocks were thrown at cyclists
and one guy was wielding a machete.


https://www.brokenandcoastal.com/jou...w-natural-area
This is almost in my back yard and was open to bikes when it was
privately owned (by the same folks who built my neighborhood in the
'50s). The City bought it and banned bikes because (drum roll), too
many cars at the trail head in the neighborhood. The neighbors were
complaining. I used to ride it on my CX bike. Great practice riding
over root pots.


I can't do that on CX anymore on account of a bad back. One missed root
or rut or getting out of the saddle a second too late and I'd pay for
that for days. Plus I'd break the bike because I always carry some load.

--
Regards, Joerg

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