On 10/13/2017 10:16 AM, Radey Shouman wrote:
Frank Krygowski writes:

On 10/13/2017 12:15 AM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Thursday, October 12, 2017 at 1:59:37 PM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:


Yes, a lot of people enjoy pretending to be soldiers. But I don't see
that society needs to put up with those juvenile pretend games if
doing so causes or aids thousands of murders.

The idea behind the Second Amendment was that most citizens would
potentially *be* soldiers, although not regular troops in a standing
army. Those who disagree with the premise should argue for repeal.
Once we start repealing the Bill of Rights I'll bet there's quite a bit
of it that will be found dispensable.

The second amendment is a terrible piece of writing. My 10th grade
English teacher would have had red marks all over it, and not just for
style. Obviously, the very meaning was so unclear that serious,
intelligent and even impartial readers have disagreed over
interpretation for hundreds of years.

So don't go "slippery slope" on me. It's an amendment, and it can be
amended. Other aspects of the constitution have been amended and even
repealed. The 18th amendment seemed like a good idea. When the effects
became apparent, the 21st corrected the situation.

We're now seeing the modern results of a terribly written 2nd amendment:
a gun murder rate that eclipses any other modern industrialized country.
We should amend that amendment, and put specific, rational limits on gun
nuts.

As I said, if people want to discuss specific time limits for
subsequent rounds, I'm happy to do so. I'm sure Joerg's life has been
saved only by his ability to get a second round into a mountain lion
really quickly. But I bet fast firepower causes far more deaths than
it prevents.

BTW, I'm sure I can fire at least two shots per second with the gun in
my basement. I haven't tried, because all my practice has been for
accuracy, not speed. But a five second wait would never have
inconvenienced me.

So how do you propose to enforce the five second limit? It would seem
to outlaw essentially all repeating firearms, and almost all breech
loading single shot firearms. Most muzzle loaders would be ok, as long
as some clever ATF guy couldn't figure out how to reload in four seconds.

Again: If you don't like five seconds, we can discuss specific firing
rates.

But how to enforce? First, outlaw and buy back purpose-designed
rapid-fire guns something like what Australia did. Second, I'd be
shocked if it were impossible to design a mechanical or electronic
damper system to limit fire rates.

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- Frank Krygowski