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Old September 14th 06, 08:14 PM posted to nyc.bicycles,alt.planning.urban,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.misc,nyc.general
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Default Helmet Nazis at It Again!

Sorry, I meant the "WTF???" for linking the two, 200 miles of new lanes
and a fatality statistic which doesn't mean anything outside its
context (methodology, sample, etc.)...thus, the liberals -- and it's
only helmet nazi liberals that go for this **** -- want to insinuate
causation when for all anyone knows it could just be correlation and
nothing more!

And **** the wealthy. They're the idiots who think it necessary to
redecorate every few years, and that riding a bike involves elaborate
gear. It's a ****ing bike, fer chrissake! Let's legislate helmets for
pedestrians too, why don't we -- do you know how many seniors trip over
their own feet every year?

"Bike education" my ass. Next thing you know, these no-life morons
want to make it a college course in itself, maybe create a Nobel Prize
category for it. God-damned helmet nazis: say hello to a
tractor-trailer!!!



Bill Z. wrote:


First, it is not "liberals" per se---politicians and city staff in
general like to throw out statistics, whether valid or not, that help
make a project they are pushing sound like it is necessary.

Second, why would a 97% figure sound surpising? Around where I live,
helmet use is far higher in the more wealthy communities compared to
the poorer ones, but the the wealthy communities also have the
resources for bike education programs in public schools that attempt
to teach children to obey traffic laws. The kids still run stop
signs, but at least they are more likely to be on the right side of
the road. If something similar is true in NYC, the 97% figure is
quite plausible. It simply means that the safest cyclists also tend
to use helmets (and probably lights at night as well). In addition
(around here) unlicensed drivers are more prevalent in the poorer
areas. That also may be true in NYC as well.

If you couple some extra protection from a helmet with using lights at
night, more or less obeying traffic laws, and riding where there are
fewer unlicensed drivers, then a huge fatality rate reduction (and
substantial accident rate reduction) is quite plausible.

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