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Old March 13th 18, 08:58 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Joerg[_2_]
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On 2018-03-13 12:23, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 7:36:16 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-03-12 22:26, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 19:55:30 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie
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On Monday, March 12, 2018 at 7:32:27 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
On Mon, 12 Mar 2018 19:58:03 -0500, AMuzi
wrote:

On 3/12/2018 7:35 PM, John B. wrote:


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After all they are "homeless" so they don't have a home
and one assumes that they can't pay for a hotel room. So
where do they go?


They are what Hitchcock called 'the McGuffin', a device to
move the plot along. Doesn't really matter.

In this case, the important principle of governance is,
"Once the problem's solved, the money stops."

https://nypost.com/2018/03/06/everyo...meless-policy/



https://nypost.com/2018/02/24/de-bla...ing-explosion/

Solving problems is anathema to anyone in politics.

Back when I was a young Airman I worked with a guy - probably
had 10 or 12 total years service - but he had mentioned that
his first hitch he had been in the Horse Drawn Field
Artillery which was pretty far back. I asked him about that
and he said yes, that his first enlistment was in
1930-something. When I asked him why he wasn't already
retired he said that when he'd finished an enlistment he'd
get out and work for a while but when he couldn't find a job
he had reenlisted.

Maybe we should re-discover this solution for the problem of
the homeless.

The armed services used to be an alternative to serving time
for petty crimes, but I don't think any branch wants known drug
addicts, psychotics, schizophrenics, etc., etc. I would guess
than only a small fraction of the homeless are there because
they lost a job -- at least based on my observations.


My last assignment in the A.F. I had a confessed drug addict
assigned to the shop. He went to the Hospital every morning for a
shot and as he was a dope addict had no security clearance which
meant he couldn't work on any of the aircraft. As a result he
could only work straight days and on projects that were not
associated with either the B-52's or the Tankers. Not a really
welcome addition to a shop that is working days, nights, and
Sundays fixing airplanes :-)

I spent considerable effort on trying to get him removed from the
shop so I could indent for a replacement who could work on the
flight line but the guy finally solved my problem by deserting.


-- Jay Beattie.

But even people sleeping on a park bench have to eat. Where does
that money come from? Unemployment payments?


Sometimes. Also welfare payments, food pantries, soup kitchens,
shelters, begging, theft. Many older homeless also get social
security payments. For a long time our church members cooked for
homeless and brought dinner to a "tolerated camp".


Don't forget picking through trash cans. Lots of good eats there.


So far I have only seen folks looking for booze in there.


Scramento has a huge homeless problem and especially so along the
American River bike path. To the point where it isn't always safe
riding there anymore. It is largely a homemade problem. The mayor
they have now doesn't understand that with all his throwing moeny
and resources at this he is enticing ever more homeless to move to
Sacramento. Free stuff! When he started this I could notice a
substantial drop in the number of homeless I see along the El
Dorado Trail yet the guy does not get it.


I've been buying bus tickets to Sacramento for the dudes camped along
our giant MUP, the Springwater Corridor. I'm glad to see its paying
off -- that and the periodic "sweeps."
http://pamplinmedia.com/go/42-news/3...ingwater-sweep

I was riding back from the Gorge on Sunday and cut over on the 205
bike path and hit a spot under an over-pass where I could barely
squeeze by all the tents -- and garbage and needles, etc., etc.
F****** incredible pigsty.

Let me know if you come up with a solution. I sure don't have one --
at least one that doesn't sound like something out of the Old
Testament, or perhaps a modern book on recycling organic matter.


The solution would be our country becoming more conservative. Work
requirements for welfare, less unconditional free stuff, and so on. The
difference in the rate of homelessness in liberal versus conservative
states is striking and Oregon looks worse than even California (which I
hadn't thought was possible).

http://nlihc.org/article/ten-highest...ess-state-2012

Nevada is kind of an exception, probably because a lot of hermits and
loners live there. They chose that lifestyle and the low amount of
regulations and little enforcement allows them to spend their days
baking in a dilapidated trailer out in the desert.

The other solution is to starve the beast (big government). High tax
states make housing so expensive that too many people are forced to drop
out into the streets. California is a prime example of that. Try getting
a building permit out here, let alone pay for it. Socialism does not work.

--
Regards, Joerg

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