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Old June 7th 12, 10:57 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Bertie Wooster[_2_]
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On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:35:32 +0100, Judith
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On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:05:47 +0100, Bertie Wooster
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On Thu, 07 Jun 2012 04:31:36 +0100, jnugent
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On 06/06/2012 20:16, Bertie Wooster wrote:
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On 06/06/2012 13:47, Bertie Wooster wrote:
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On 06/06/2012 12:32, thirty-six wrote:
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On 06/06/2012 00:11, Dave - Cyclists VOR wrote:
On 05/06/2012 22:10, Bertie Wooster wrote:
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On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:52:16 +0300, davethedave
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On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 17:35:58 +0100, jnugent wrote:

Does a hosepipe ban prevent one from washing a car using a bucket
(just
like you'd have to with water from a water butt)?

What is banned? Clean cars or hosepipes?

The use of hosepipes domestically. You can quite happily take it to
a man
who runs a car washing business and pay him to use a hosepipe on it.

Is the wrong answer.

Care to explain why?
Unless the BBC have got it all wrong, of course:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17615364

Do keep up!

The ban is not a blanket ban on the use of hosepipes. The example I
gave earlier was of the domestic use of a hosepipe attached to a water
butt.

So how did that make the previous poster's comment on taking your car
to a
car wash wrong?

You can take your car to a car wash. However, the assertion was made
that "The use of hosepipes domestically" are banned.

Wriggling like the worm you are again Cwispin.

Mr Nugent stated;
"You can quite happily take it to a man who runs a car washing business
and pay him to use a hosepipe on it".

You replied;
"Is the wrong answer".

You ****ed up again pure& simple and now you are wriggling.

Actually, it was not I who wrote: "You can quite happily take it to a
man who runs a car washing business and pay him to use a hosepipe on it".

I only asked what advantage there in drawing a bucket of water from a
butt as opposed to drawing it from the garden tap (or even from the
kitchen mixer taps, hotter than body temperature). Neither seems to be
illegal unless there is a ban on washing cars (which there isn't).

Assuming the bucket is 10L, and you are on a water meter, one
advantage is 1.2263 pence for the water and another 0.6473 pence for
sewerage. Clare also reckons rainwater (even from a butt) is better
for plants than treated water.

Grow some lettuce on rainwater then water with tap water and watch it
wilt. When it eventually picks up, do a taste comparison. It might
help you decide what to stuff down your throat in future.

What's the connection with hosepipe bans?

A hosepipe connected to the mains can water lettuce with treated
water; a hosepipe connected to a water butt can water lettuce with
rainwater. But with the hosepipe ban in place you are not allowed to
water lettuce with a hosepipe connected to mains water.

Perhaps I ought to have been clearer: what's the advantage, with special
reference to a hosepipe ban?

You can still use a hosepipe connected to a water butt when there's a
hosepipe ban in place.

Is there a gravity-using technique (eg, raising the height of the butt
like a water tower), or is some sort of syphoning system necessary?


I raise the butt as high as is safe.

In this photo you can see the butt is on a stand which is on a
concrete shelf so that the tap is about 18" above patio level
http://www.britishschoolofcycling.co.../shed/butt.jpg
When full the water level in the butt will be about 4' above patio
level and so water will come out of a hose which is below that level.
My lawn is about 3" below patio level, and the flower beds are about
1' above patio level. Pressure can be increased with the use of an
electric pump, but unless that is powered from a battery charged from
solar pannels on the shed roof, the cost benefit of using rainwater
over mains water is lost.



Indeed - every little helps.


I'm sure you've heard the saying, Judith. Save the pennies and the
pounds will look after themselves. Unfortunately, a mini 60w solar
power station will cost 84,900 pennies:
http://www.thesolarcentre.co.uk/prod...60w-600-6.html

That's a hell of a lot of pennies to save: about 170,000 urinations
with a flush every second pee.
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