On Thu, 12 Sep 2019 10:36:18 -0000 (UTC), Duane
wrote:
John B. wrote:
On Wed, 11 Sep 2019 16:07:23 -0700 (PDT), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:
On Wednesday, 11 September 2019 18:41:11 UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 9/11/2019 6:28 PM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, 11 September 2019 12:43:27 UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 9/11/2019 12:46 AM, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Wednesday, 11 September 2019 00:01:43 UTC-4, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 09:05:29 -0700 (PDT), pH wrote:
I wonder if there's a market for a "Google Glass" type of thing
w/ a back-facing camera displayed on a forward screen full time.
Hmm.
pH in Aptos
Rear view bicycle cameras already exist:
https://www.google.com/search?q=bicycle+rear+view+camera&tbm=isch
You might also consider an automotive dashboard camera, which usually
has a rear view camera included.
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A good rear-view camera can really help if this happens. Frank will
say the bicyclist should have been lane center but I don't think
that would have helped in this case.
youtube.com/watch?v=QYMKp71vW-I
I think the guy was riding in the worst possible position. It looks like
there are four feet of paved shoulder outside the rumble strips. Absent
piles of shoulder debris, why not ride there?
If that shoulder were not present, yes, I would have been toward lane
center. Given the speed limit on the road, I'd probably have paid
attention to my mirror. But in my considerable experience, motorists
would have seen me and slowed down or changed lanes. I've never had to
leave the road to avoid a crash from behind.
Incidentally, that lane does look wide. If a motorist didn't change
lanes (perhaps because the inside lane was occupied), when he slowed I'd
probably move toward the fog line. If he's proven he sees me and is
adjusting to my presence, I show that cooperation when feasible. (If the
lane were too narrow to share I'd stay centered.)
All of this works. It's what I do, and I seem to be the guy here who
complains the least about close passes, crashes, etc.
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- Frank Krygowski
Frank, did you watch the video? The driver never even slowed down thus
showing that they most likely could not see the bicyclist. I've read
that the driver had a hand up as if trying to shield from sun glare.
thus the driver would not have seen the bicyclists even had the
bicyclist been in the center of the lane. Notice that the other lanes
were devoid of traffic when she hit the bicyclist? If the driver could
not see ahead of them then the driver should have slowed down a lot.
I watched the video. My answer was based on that. I said he was riding
in the worst possible position. The shoulder looks clear, and I would
have been there.
About the sun: In the video, the telltale sign of a low sun hazard was
not apparent. That sign is your shadow stretching out _long_ toward the
driver. It indicates that the sun is low in the sky and aligned with
your position. I've advised my club mates that if that's the case, stay
off that road until it's safe. If I saw that danger when riding there, I
would have adjusted, perhaps by waiting 20 minutes before proceeding.
Sometimes I don't understand your logic, Sir. I'm saying he was riding
in the worst possible position. Are you claiming he was doing everything
right? Really? Despite your evidence?
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- Frank Krygowski
Oh, I also find it interesting and amusing that you so dislike
bicyclists who say to ride to the right of a lane yet you say this
person should not have been on the road at all but should have been
riding on the shoulder.
Cheers
I think it is a matter of relative speed. If the bicycle is moving at
approximately the speed of the other traffic than perhaps "taking the
lane" is a logical act.
But the roads I ride on are major links between cities and as a result
you may have 3 lanes of traffic going your way, A lane of heavy
trucks, generally going 100km on the level in the outside lane and two
lanes of autos doing in excess of 100 km., sometimes far in excess of
100 kpm.
Taking the lane in those circumstances would mean a 40 foot truck
hauling a 40 ft trailer and loaded with 60 tons (container weight) of
cargo having to brake some 2/3rds of its speed to avoid hitting the
bicycle thundering along at 30 kph.
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cheers,
John B.
Typical non neighbourhood speed limits here are 50 km/h. Which means
bumper to bumper rush hour traffic at around 65. I’ll take my bike lane
and my chances
Well I ride on roads where the speed limit doesn't seem to be enforced
and traffic is usually in the 100+ km range - on the 4 lane road right
through the middle of town :-) Out on the open road it is sort of
"fast as you can". Heavy trucks about 100 km (on the level) and
everything else is faster.The other day my wife was driving 120 kph
and almost everything was passing her.
And all we got is a "fog line".
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cheers,
John B.