On 08/06/18 10:12, MrCheerful wrote:
On 08/06/2018 09:49, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jun 2018 16:27:31 GMT, MrCheerful
wrote:

On 07/06/2018 15:28, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:
On Wed, 06 Jun 2018 20:01:16 GMT, JNugent
wrote:

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Well done; no unseemly hating of groups of people just because of
where they live. Just prejudice based on mode of transport!


no, it is prejudice based on the behaviour of users of said mode of
transport.
If the majority of the users were sensible, law abiding and behaved
with normal manners and sensibilities then no-one would have any
problem with them.


Well, quite. Sadly there are many poor drivers in charge of large lumps
of metal endangering other road users every minute of the day. And
apologists who come here willing to blame all of societies ills on a
minority.

Can you point out where 'all society's ills' are blamed on cyclists?

Most of your links describe criminal activities that have nothing to
with riding a bike.

It would be against the charter of the group to go off topic.Â* This is a
group about cyclists in the UK

Not at all. If you insist on sitting there and criticing, a comparison
is essential.

If you insist upon bringing drivers into your whatabouttery argument,
then I would have to say that as a proportion of the totals, bad
cyclists far outnumber good cyclists.Â* Whereas bad car drivers are far
outnumbered by good ones.

Drivers have many bad habits. They are so commonplace most are easily
dealt with by experience and instances quickly forgotten.

"Badness" only really matters when a repeated pattern of behaviour is
something we can't adapt to and causes harm. Nugent mentioned the
50's... Written rules have hardly changed but can you imagine how a
driver of those days would fare if time shifted into modern traffic?

Of the sins you mention about cyclists (at least, the few that are
actually to do with riding a bike) then the statistics tell us that if
often repeated (as you claim), they are not significantly harmful or, if
harmful, they can't be repeated as often as you think.

But even if (it is a big IF) you are right about proportions, serious
"badness" in a single driver does more harm than hundreds or even
thousands of "bad" cyclists.