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Old August 5th 19, 09:05 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Tom Kunich[_5_]
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On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 5:51:37 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Monday, August 5, 2019 at 12:36:05 AM UTC+1, John B. wrote:

Or the so called "Holocaust" a carefully planned elimination of an
entire race of people carried out by (at least) nominal Christians.


The Holocaust wasn't "so-called"; it is an historical, meticulously documented event, not least by its perpetrators, master bookkeepers. And scare-quotes around the noun also give the impression you're a Holocaust denier. I don't imagine that was your intention. If that was your intention, keep it to yourself because many places in the world now Holocaust denial is punishable legal transgression.

The Nazis weren't even "nominally" Christians. They explicit rejected Christianity in favour of a pagan national connection to nature. For instance, the title among his many titles that Herman Goering was most proud of was 'Huntsman of Germany", which put him in charge of all the forests -- I kid you not. Religion in Germany under the Nazis wasn't exactly a fringe activity, but it played no part in the policies of the German state* -- contrast for instance Ireland, where the Catholic church, which had no official position, was a de facto arm of government until the 1980s.

*It is argued that Vatican and the Curia played the part of the blind monkeys, that they were fellow-travellers and collaborators with the Nazis; their defender claim they were helping to save Jews.

Andre Jute
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To people like John, mass murder of the sort of people you don't like is perfectly OK.
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