On Thu, 02 Jul 2015 10:13:56 -0300, Joy Beeson
wrote:

On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 19:55:46 +0700, John B.
wrote:

I've been using rubber bands,

And yesterday, while writing my time of departure from the
supermarket, I noticed that a loop of the rubber band around the top
of my pencil had come undone.

I don't think I would have used it. I also noticed that it was time
to throw it out and put on a fresh one (though when I did that just
now, the old one held together and stretched normally).

Not to mention that my memo-pad case won't work properly without the
rubber band. It is a very cheap case that was intended as a party
favor, so the special pen that keeps it closed broke early on, but I
found that a short pencil with a rubber band around the top to keep it
from falling on through works fine.

The pencil is short enough that the point is inside the hinge-like
clasp, so it doesn't matter that it doesn't retract.

I used to carry a notebook and pencil to record things such as changes
to a route or times and was continually either loosing a pencil or the
point was broken, etc.

Finally reason triumphed and I now just use my "smart phone" with a
"notes" app.
--
cheers,

John B.