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Old March 15th 17, 07:55 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Doug Landau
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On Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 6:15:01 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, March 15, 2017 at 1:27:10 AM UTC, AMuzi wrote:
Claims 'projector' lensing as opposed to 'reflector' lensing.
I don't know

http://www.herrmans.eu/start-english...?familyId=2209


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Herrmans is a Finnish component company with a really good name among the better German baukasten for well-priced good quality parts. You can see their good value grips, often uncredited, as the standard fitment on the sort of bikes where leather grips from Brooks might be an option. I have several pairs taken off my bikes to fit the Brooks edge-on leather-ring grips instead.
http://thorncyclesforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=4723

Despite Jeff's explanation, and without having spent too much time looking into it (the Iditarod is still in the end-phases, see http://coolmainpress.com/ajwriting/ ), this Herrmans lamp's gubbins seems to me a variation on the BUMM LED shining backwards into some kind of a shaped reflector as in the CYO and FLY, of which I have several, which were the first decent consumer-type hub-drive lamps (i.e. not specialist lamps) -- still not fabulous, but adequate (which one couldn't say for the previous BUMM lamps the resident BUMMbuddies obsessed over, and abused me for when I pointed out their shortcomings).

To answer Barry's question about how much, I don't know, but I would expect a Herrmans component to undercut the German equivalent, so cheaper than the BUMM and top Dutch lamps. They're not intended for your market at all, in fact, they're in a mass market, not the sort of niche you inhabit.

In any event, I wonder if they have the marketing clout, or the interest, to distribute in the States. The reason you don't see a lot of European component makers in the States is not that they can't compete -- they're killer competitors when they want to be -- but because they don't grasp the point: see, their natural base market is OEM sales to European makers of fully equipped bikes, a class that hardly exists in the States. Their product managers would throw a conniption fit if they had to sell their gear, for their base bread and butter, one unit at a time to consumers, as happens too often in the States, a very wasteful process as Scharfie keeps pointing out (and not making headway because that wretchedly ignorant clown Frank Krygowski keeps running interference).

Andre Jute
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