On 31/07/2017 4:09 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, July 31, 2017 at 10:53:16 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-07-29 17:43, jbeattie wrote:
On Saturday, July 29, 2017 at 7:34:00 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-07-28 15:57, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, July 28, 2017 at 2:10:10 PM UTC-7, David Scheidt
wrote:
Joy Beeson wrote: :On Thu, 27
Jul 2017 09:39:03 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie
wrote:

: Just two water bottles that I filled every 50 miles.

:When I could ride that far, a bottle would last about ten
miles.

Jay's a camel.

Not like Jobst. I fill up big bottles. I just don't take more
than two -- except on rare occasion. When selecting a bike, I
don't go into the store and ask for an '80s Euro-sport bike with
a rack so I can haul gallons of water on a day ride.

Joerg has peculiar needs. I'm fine with a couple of bottle
bosses and 160mm brake rotors on a gravel bike. If I were riding
trails in the middle of nowhere, I might consider a camel back or
some other option, but I'm not. I'm never that far from water on
a day ride.



http://www.performancebike.com/webap...HydrationGuide



Quote: "Carry and consume one 16-24oz bottle of plain water, plus one
extra 16-24oz bottle of an energy drink for each hour on the
bike".

Most of my rides are 4-5h and I am a tall guy who is more at the
upper end of the water requirement scale. So there.

Yes, this also applies to Oregonians since they have a store in
Portland :-)

There used to be three Performance stores in Portand, but they closed
the one downtown -- the only one close to my work or home.

So, reading that prescription, do I have to carry eight bottles for a
four hour ride?


Certainly so in hot weather. If you carry much less and have no re-fill
options you could be causing damage to your body.


... Wow, I better start buying cages and hose clamps. Or
I could just stop every hour and fill up my bottles -- assuming I
needed all that fluid. Hmmmmmm.


I need that much fluid when it's around 100F out there like right now.
Yesterday's ride was only 20mi in hilly terrain and I consumed about
70oz of water plys 16oz of electrolyte.

Ok, plus two pints at a brewpub :-)


I did a 30 mile loop this afternoon -- nothing terrible because I'm
expecting to get throttled by some friends tomorrow. Temperature was
low-mid 80s -- blue skies, low wind. A gorgeous day. I went through
one 21oz bottle, and there is still some water sloshing around in the
bottle.


Unless you rode really slowly that wasn't healthy even without much sun.


Well, I felt good enough to go out yesterday for a 55 mile ride with about 20 miles of steady or rolling hills, during which time I drank one 24oz bottle of Hammer Heed and a quarter of a 21oz bottle of water -- plus a Cliff Bar. I went early and temperatures were mild, and except for the return trip down HWY 30, I was often under tree cover. http://www.sahdpdx.com/wp-content/up...highway_30.jpg

You complain about your drivers, I was on this road: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fzwm4m3ZFI (although it was sunny and nice). It was pretty empty early morning, so no urban race-car drivers. First climb of the day is four miles of mostly gravel. http://www.rubbertotheroad.com/ride-...de_36/36_3.jpg It's like being in the Hobbit kingdom.

If it were blistering hot (i.e. Thursday is predicted to be 107), I would have consumed much more water, and I would have stopped to refill. The center section of the ride doesn't have anywhere to stop (unless I tapped someone's hosebib), but there are spots elsewhere, and the last eight miles home are through the city -- basically my commute route plus a few miles. If I were so inclined, I could go to a half-dozen brew pubs, including the new Breakside in NW. Their IPA is first-rate. However, I prefer not to ride home after drinking beer.

I felt way better than I should have coming home, I think because of the HEED -- and a tail wind. Drinking for recovery is just as important as drinking on the bike, so I had a beer after getting home -- and then mowed the lawn. That was hard! I drank 120oz of water!

-- Jay Beattie.



Hammer Heed is good stuff. For cutting the lawn after the trick is to
be able to manager the mower with one hand leaving one free for the beer.