On 8/3/2019 7:04 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/3/2019 4:01 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Saturday, August 3, 2019 at 9:19:52 AM UTC-7, Frank
Krygowski wrote:
On 8/3/2019 11:55 AM, jbeattie wrote:
... even a sensible Democrat is clearly superior to the
insane asylum the Left has conjured up out of the
fraudulent "oppression" of tiny minorities, who together
cannot account for rolling a single log...

Agreed. And I think lots of people agree.

Murder is definitional -- and if it is licensed, it is
not murder. Whether one can murder a fetus in the US
varies from state to state. The religious and historical
prohibition on murder was to maintain social peace and
order. The Fifth Commandment did not apply to a fetus,
at least not absolutely and not according to the Jews --
whose God god wrote the rule (although the original was
lost for many years until found by Stephen Spielberg.)
Regrettably, Catholics and conservative Christians have
pushed for prohibition as an article of faith and
without regard to what becomes of the fetus once born,
and in fact Christian conservatives bemoan the "welfare
state."

I disagree with that final sentence. At least around
here, there are
many church-based institutions that care for women and
children, and
there are ongoing congregational charity drives for them.
We contribute.

I'm talking about the Christian right and its approach to
state welfare.
https://scholarworks.wmich.edu/cgi/v...1&context=jssw

This has nothing to do with charitable giving -- which is
great -- but accounts for a small fraction of total
welfare costs.

You're still wrong when you include Catholics in "without
regard to what becomes of the fetus once born." You're
mistakenly treating Catholics as one unified bloc marching
in step. And you're ignoring the Church's general attitude
toward social safety nets, as well as the immense (really,
unequaled) amount of charity work done by institutions and
people connected with the Church.



Indeed they are as riven a group as bicyclists, the
conservative Catholics and the wacko commies such as Francis
the Argentine.

celebrate diversity! and oh, do they ever.
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Andrew Muzi
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