"Blackblade" wrote in message ...

Edward Dolan wrote:
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I am calling you a moral bankrupt for what you do to trails
with your bike.

Now I'm really laughing. Riding a bicycle is a sign of moral bankruptcy ?

Riding your bicycle on a hiking trail is an ultimate evil. Riding your bicycle on a road is fine and dandy.

I don't do any more to trails on my bike than you do on your feet.

You disturbed the tranquility of hikers. You destroy the trail path for walking. And you **** things up wherever you go.

You are the transgressor. The only force I am advocating is
authorized force. However, hikers would be well advised to enter wilderness
areas with a concealed weapon on their person since so many bikers are
thugs.

What am I transgressing Ed ? I'm doing something you don't like. So what ? You don't, fortunately, get to make the law.

The laws will have to be changed because of scofflaws like you.

There are loads of hiker/biker accidents so it's too dangerous :
REFUTED
It's more environmentally damaging than hiking : REFUTED
It's aesthetically unappealing to you : INVALID REASONS TO ALLOCATE PUBLIC
RESOURCE
It's an 'incorrect' use of a public resource : NO FACTS TO BACKUP
ASSERTION

Nothing has been refuted. Whoever heard of anyone who takes
the “refutations” of mountain bikers seriously. You are nothing but a hot air
windbag who wouldn’t know a fact if it jumped up and bit you on your ass. And
your logic is as screwy as your facts.

Well, I'm not the one who asserted that there were loads of interactions in a location and then couldn't back it up. Hot air maybe ? :-)

Face it, you don't have anything; you simply don't like mountainbikes on trails, it's that simple. You have nothing to back that up as a logical conclusion ... it's just your personal prejudice.

You have just described yourself and your ilk perfectly. Keep up the good work!

Your logic is as twisted as your morality ... self serving to
the core. Have you no shame!

I do believe I'm winning ... the level of ad-hominem is usually in direct proportion to your failure to justify your premises.

The level of ad-hominem is directly related to one’s idiocy.

The only assertions that are being demolished are yours.
Let’s leave it to the readers of this thread to draw their
own conclusions.

More than happy to do so.

The fact is that I just plain don’t like mountain bikers doing their thing on
hiking trails. And I don’t like those who defend what it is they do.

I get that ... that's my point ... you don't have any valid, objective reasons for this prejudice ... you just feel this way. What you don't get is that there is no moral imperative on me, or others, to pander to your prejudice.

You have entered an arena where you are not wanted. You are doing something new under the sun. And you can’t come up with any good reasons for doing any of it other than a childish pleasure in destroying something sacred (what’s the matter – can’t walk?). You have incurred the hatred of hikers and you will reap the whirlwind.

You are
wrongheaded about everything having to do with this subject. And yes, you are
indeed selfish ... and morally corrupt to boot. Purgatory awaits you in the
next world.

So, I'm selfish because I won't conform to your desires for exclusivity ? Try arguing that one logically.

Let's end this ... we're both happy to let others judge the 'winner' of the debate and, in the end, that's all that matters since I doubt we're going to move each other very far.

Leave if you want. There are plenty of other idiots to take your place. In the meantime, Mr. Vandeman and I will continue to work quietly behind the scenes to get the present disgusting and immoral situation changed back to the way it was in the good old days.

Ed Dolan the Great
aka
Saint Edward the Great