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Old July 23rd 08, 01:22 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman
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Default The Bay Trail -- A Disaster for Wildlife

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:50:34 -0700 (PDT), Bruce Jensen
wrote:

On Jul 20, 7:49*pm, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:54:41 -0700 (PDT), Bruce Jensen

wrote:
On Jul 19, 8:45*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
The Bay Trail -- A Disaster for Wildlife
Michael J. Vandeman, Ph.D., wildlife activisthttp://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
September 21, 2003


We've had this discussion before. *You, and all of your references,
have clearly not paid any attention to the actual situation where the
trail meets the Bayshore, and you have no authority to speak to the
subject. *My offer still stands to take you out there and show you
what the biodiversity is really like. *Until you go out and observe
the abundance of life out there and understand what is really on the
ground, even with the trails in place, your credibility is zero.


Bruce Jensen


That's irrelevant. The issues are (1) the Bay Trail destroying habitat
and (2) increasing human presence making the existing habitat less
useful to the wildlife.
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I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

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Both of which are substantially incorrect and red herrings.


BS. The Bay Trail and Ridge Trail have been created partly by paving
over or otherwise damaging natural areas (i.e., wildlife habitat). And
they facilitate increased human presence, which is known to be harmful
to wildlife. The fact that you give no details is a good indication
that you have nothing to back up your statement.

Bruce Jensen

--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
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