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Old August 11th 19, 05:37 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 14:03:35 +1000, James
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On 11/8/19 8:04 am, John B. wrote:
On Sun, 11 Aug 2019 07:46:42 +1000, James
wrote:

On 10/8/19 11:37 pm, Sepp Ruf wrote:
James wrote:

About moderation of what people do and say, in Australia the authorities
like to moderate whenever and where ever possible, without addressing
the root cause of a problem.

Australians seem to have a reputation for liking to binge drink alcohol.
In some areas this has been linked to "alcohol fuelled violence". So
to combat the problem, the authorities decided to enact "lockout laws",
effectively closing the nightclubs and pubs earlier, in certain areas.
This appears to have helped, however it hasn't addressed the root cause
of the problem - why people want to drink to excess and start fighting.
Some argue that the laws have moved the problem elsewhere.

In Italy by contrast, beer is available at supermarkets, sandwich bars
and fuel stations, and it is pretty cheap by comparison. Given the
availability of alcohol, and that no one would bat an eyelid if you sat
outside at lunchtime and drank a bottle of beer in public, you would
expect there to be drunk people all over and fights left and right.

You could try taxing beer higher than wine,
https://vinepair.com/articles/italian-craft-beer/


Oh, more moderation from the authorities? That's the kind of thing they
try and it fails to address the underlying issue.


And what is that? That Australians are natural born boozers?

For the past 50 years, or so, I've worked with Australians, known
Australians, associated with Australians and even visited Oz and that
is not what I see at all. In fact, my impression is that Australians
are pretty boring people, you know? Want to make a living wage,
educate their kids, have a decent place to live. etc.

Although Crocodile Dundee may be a very romantic figure I've never met
him in all the years I've know Australians.


Australia is a big country and although only sparsely populated, has a
wide range of people. I'll bet you've only come across a thin section.


BTW, I said reputation, not necessarily fact.

Oh, and people like Dundee and his mates exist, but not where you would
travel I wager.


Yes, and you are correct that I mainly came in contract with "overseas
workers", but when you work with all sorts of nationalities, we even
had an "Irian" bloke with his teeth all filed to points, it does,
eventually become obvious that people are, generally speaking, all
about the same, and all want about the same things.

As I mentioned we had an Australian bloke that if you opened a beer in
his present would drink until he passed out, and we had two
Australians, on the same project, that didn't seem to drink at all. We
had two Northern Irish on a project, one of which got all limber
legged walking past a pub. the other one was a strict Christian and
said that drink was a sin.

The concept that "Australians", or "Americans" for that matter, like
this or like that or act this way or that way just doesn't work out in
reality.

We have here, for example, an Australian that rides a bicycle, and at
the same time when I visited Aus, granted about 5 years ago, I don't
remember seeing any adult riding a bicycle.
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cheers,

John B.

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