On 3/31/2011 11:32 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
"T�m Sherm�nT " wrote in
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On 3/31/2011 10:16 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
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Judaism is actually quite unique among world religions since it is based
solely on the Book. Roman Catholicism for instance is based as much on a
Church as it is the Bible. Islam somewhat resembles Judaism since it too
seems to be based mainly on a book, but by a single author.

Ed, you really should not post from ignorance - not just the Torah, but
also the Talmud is central to the practice of Judaism.

It is all part of the Book. But the Bible is at the heart of it all. No
Bible, no Jews!

Mr. Ed Dolan has it backwards. No Jews, no Bible.

I am opposed to all tribalism as outdated and destructive to society as
a
worldwide whole, and therefore am against Jewishness as an ideology.
This
is why there is no such thing as a leftist Jew, since tribal
identification is done away with in a true equality society.

Israel is a modern democratic state, unlike the sea of Arab kingdoms
around
them. The Jews of Israel are highly sophisticated compared to the Arabs
whom
remain forever primitive and barbaric. Jeez, I wonder if Islam has
anything
to do with it?
[...]

In its laws, Israel discriminates against non-Jews. Equal rights for all
is central to democracy.

All Muslim Arabs should be booted out of Israel. What Arabs do best is breed
like rabbits, live like pigs and die like flies. Unfortunately, they do not
die fast enough. Israel would soon cease to be a Jewish state if Muslim
Arabs are included. Let them go to Jordan, their rightful home.

Mr. Ed Dolan forgets that the Zionists claim everything from the
Euphrates to the Nile should belong to Israel.

I don't much like anti-Semites ever since the Holocaust.

Did you (Ed Dolan) like anti-Semites before the Holocaust?

Earlier pogroms seemed like mythic tales to me, but the Holocaust brought
home the reality of mass slaughter.
[...]

While the Holocaust undeniably led to the deaths of some five (5) to seven
(7) million European and Russian Jews [1], the Zionist lobby has led to
the legal suppression of historical investigation of what really happened,
as there are things they prefer not to be brought to light, such as the
"Transfer Agreement" that the Zionists made with Hitler and the Nazi's in
1933, the support of the Nazis by some Zionists as the way to promote
Jewish emigration from Europe to Israel, the refusal of the international
Zionist community to buy the freedom of 2 million Jews during the war,
resulting in their deaths in the labor camps, and even the acquiscence of
Holocaust deaths as a way to gain international sympathy for the creation
of Israel at the expense of the indigenous Palestinian Arab population,
and the realization of the advantages of "Holocaust guilt" to the Zionist
cause.

More anti-Zionist rubbish. Why should the Jews have had to do anything to
save themselves from the German and Nazi butchers?

One wonders [1] if the international Jewish community had not declared
economic war on Germany in 1933, would the Nazis have gone to such
extremes against the European Jewish community?

Thankfully, many Jews (the people) are turning away from Zionism,
particularly in the US where they have *not* been significantly
discriminated against in recent decades, and in fact, are
over-represented
in federal political appointments by 10 to 25 times or more relative to
their overall share of the population. Recent survey data indicates
that
only about one-third (1/3) of USian Jews consider themselves ardent
Zionists, with mostly older Jews being Zionists.

Jews love America because they have a far better life here than they
could
ever have in any other land in the world, even including Israel. Even so,
American Jews are at extreme risk of losing their Jewishness. I give you
Andres Muro as an example of the species.

Exactly why Zionist sentiment is decreasing among younger USian Jews -
they have no reason to believe that they need an exclusive Jewish state
for protection. And rightfully so, they put being a USian ahead of other
cultural identities, unlike the neo-cons and other Zionists who
treasonously put the interests of Israel ahead of what is best for the US.

American Jews remain in the US for the good life, not because they don't
believe in the State of Israel.

Mr. Ed Dolan presents false assumption as fact. Mr. Ed Dolan certainly
does not personally know a representative cross-section of USian Jews,
as he is cooped up in his hovel in a small town in Minnesota. Survey
data indicates that Mr. Ed Dolan is wrong.

I think American Jews do have a dual
loyalty, but I could say that about several other large ethnic groups also.
America is not really a tight ethnic nation like most European nations. We
are more like Brazil.

Remember, in a melting pot, the scum rises to the top.

[1] Well, at least I am allowed to wonder. Such wondering (including
*legitimate* academic inquiry) in many Western European nations [2]
could land one in prison.
[2] However, these same nations generally tolerate promotion of
anti-Muslim falsehoods. The hypocrisy is due to the political power of
the Zionist lobby.

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