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Old May 24th 07, 11:51 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Wolf Leverich
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Default Euphemism for Illegal Mountain Bike Trails: "Gray Trails"

On 2007-05-24, Mike Vandeman wrote:

On Wed, 23 May 2007 19:48:04 -0700, wrote:

In article ,
says...
From: "Jon Kennedy"
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 17:55:24 -0000
Subject: Staff Night Out (5/30) -- Gray Area Conversation --

Come join Justin and Jon next Wednesday at the Redhook Brewery in
Woodinville for the fourth BBTC Staff Night Out.

At this pub night we want your feedback on what our policy on gray
trails should be. A gray trail is one where the land owner informally
allows us to maintain, build or use trails on their land, but there
is no formal written policy.


So it's illegal now for land owners to allow trails on their property?


No, it's illegal to trespass and damage private property. DUH! Leave
it to a mountain biker not to know that.



Actually, in many states being on other folks' land is not, in and
of itself, illegal or trespassing.

Depending of the state, the land may have to be fenced, posted at
specific intervals, or the landowner may have to order folks off
the land to make presence constitute trespass and be subject to
civil and criminal penalties.

California requires, IIRC, at a minimum of posting every third of
a mile along a property boundary plus posting at all places where
roads and trails enter the property.

This is kinda important to hikers, or there would be even more
access problems than there already are ...

Cheers, Wolf.


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