On Oct 13, 3:35*am, Chalo wrote:
David Scheidt wrote:

You want a kickstand, and are therefore insufficently cool to buy an
overpriced mass-produced frame from the hipster marketing machine of
QBP. *

Okay, I'll bite. *What other touring geometry frameset with a full
complement of brazeons can you buy new for less than $400?

Chalo

List on the Soma Saga is the same as the Surly. I like Surlys a lot,
but for a touring rig, the kickstand plate on the Soma would win me
over. Plus, it has panels.