On 2/20/2018 9:11 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

And BTW, if you did somehow get your fantasies built, you'd _still_ have
to educate both cyclists and motorists. We've just looked at cyclists
who weren't aware of crossing conflicts with segregated facilities, and
motorists who didn't or couldn't scan properly before turning. You
shouldn't pretend that stripes or barriers make things simpler. They
don't; they complicate things at intersections. It takes education to
learn about those complications.

Speaking of educations: Here's a video, over four minutes long, to try
to teach people how to use a new two-way "protected" cycle track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7ii...ature=youtu.be

Got that? It requires four minutes of explanation plus a bunch of
counter-intuitive moves. Yet crap like this is supposed to be "safe for
everybody 8 to 80."

It makes no sense.

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- Frank Krygowski