On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 08:57:44 -0700 (PDT),
jbeattie wrote:
On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 7:50:29 PM UTC-7, ERSHC wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jun 2018 20:18:36 +0000 (UTC), Theodore Heise wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jun 2018 08:21:52 -0700 (PDT),
jbeattie wrote:
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On Wed, 6 Jun 2018 07:44:01 -0700 (PDT),
Andre Jute wrote:

Seems to me chain cleaning and waxing is another
sadomasochistic practice that cyclists without the
imagination to do something more productive have
brought on themselves.

Of course, if chain cleaning and waxing defines who
you are, like going to church on Sundays, don't pay
any attention to me; I wouldn't dream of criticizing
your religion.

Seriously, it's a very simple process, and less work than
cleaning and relubing a chain. I'm not advocating it as
suitable for anyone else, just desribing how it works for
me. If that warrants chastising, I have to wonder who are
the real religious zealots.

Really simple, and something I do ONCE in the chain's life.
Hot wax bath, then on to the bike. 3000 miles and .25%
elongation later, it's into the thrash and a new $12.50 chain
(currently SRAM PC850s) gets installed. Cheap and easy. And I
ride in the rain and snow as well as good weather in NYC.

The best internally geared hubs don't have the efficiency of a
dirty chain on derailure cogs. I'm much too lazy to waste
energy on internal gears or on oiling a chain every 100 miles.

I got no problems with wax. People who wanna wax should wax.
For me, a good waxing would probably last about a day or two of
long rides in December, but then nothing stays on a chain very
long in hard rain. I might try wax one day -- I've got race
wax and teflon powder for my skis that I might put on my chain.
I'll go super fast (but only downhill)!

Jay makes a great point. If I rode in the rain a lot (or even
much), I probably would not be using wax.

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Ted Heise West Lafayette, IN, USA