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Old September 20th 18, 05:03 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 9/20/2018 10:52 AM, Radey Shouman wrote:
jbeattie writes:

On Thursday, September 20, 2018 at 2:18:28 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Thursday, September 20, 2018 at 1:43:47 AM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/19/2018 7:26 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
jbeattie writes:

On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 10:02:04 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Wednesday, September 19, 2018 at 4:40:32 PM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote:

I don't even get why the lunatic right would hate on Janet Reno.
If she was a tyrant who tortured prisoners, she should be the
poster-girl of the hell-fire and brimstone set.

-- Jay Beattie.

You should ask a member of the lunatic right to explain that to
you. Don't forget to report here so we can all have a giggle.

If you doubt that Reno tortured prisoners, I've already given you a
vivid, uncontested example in this thread. If you think you know
better, disprove it. Where one finds one example of such brutality,
there are usually many more examples to be discovered by any
competent investigator. It's not my problem if your media has
betrayed its obligation to truth, and to you.

Well, your media is betraying you, too:
http://blogs.brown.edu/pols-1821t-20...Walk_Myths.pdf

And why are we debating the past -- and particularly a past that was
well-known when Janet Reno was unanimously confirmed by the Senate?
Was the FBI not doing its job? The Senate Judiciary Committee not
doing its job? The Office of Government Ethics? The staff of every
senator of both parties? Even the IRS is part of the vetting
process. She was vetted more thoroughly than El Presidente Trump. Why
does every internet ****** think they know more than two branches of
the federal government?

The demonic preschool moral panic of the 80s and 90s was not one of our
brighter episodes, with all of the craziness of the Salem witch trials
and much less excuse. I'm not sure whose job it was to prevent the use
of public money to prosecute nursery school operators for sodomizing
kiddies with butcher knives on the moon, absent any physical evidence
whatsoever, but a voice of reason from somewhere in government would
have been nice.

What actually happened is that a number of those fine, upstanding, law
school graduates siezed on it as an opportunity for advancement. When I
first moved to Massachusetts I was amazed to discover that Scott
Harshbarger, the DA who prosecuted the ridiculous Fells Acres case, was
running for governor. Fortunately he was defeated, but narrowly.

More recently Martha Coakley tried to parlay her experience in witch
hunting into a run for governor. She cut her legal teeth on the Fells
Acres case and continued to work, as AG, to keep Gerald Amirault, a man
convicted in it, behind bars long after it should have become obvious
what lunacy it was. Happily, she lost as well.


Dorothy Rabinowitz blew the crazy prosecution cult wide
open. But not for her it would have never ended.

http://www.famous-trials.com/mcmartin/940-daycareabuse

Justice was never served; innocents were abused down to
death and until today as the wrongs resisted righting.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

There's a National Registry of Exonerations at the U of Michigan Law
School that makes frightening reading. You can get a sampling by
clicking anywhere on this interactive guide:
https://www.law.umich.edu/special/ex...tates-Map.aspx
and find your way from there to deeper discussions.


Every human endeavor has an error rate, and errors are usually
determined in hindsight and often after the science has settled. That
was the situation in some of the child abuse cases. The prosecutors
believed what their experts were telling them, what parents and
children were telling them and what the public was demanding. It's not
hard to believe that abuse occurs -- the Catholic Church proves the
point, and a prosecutor could in good faith purse an abuse case later
determined to be a hoax.

You have to differentiate between prosecutions that were mistaken and
those that were pursued with knowledge that the defendant was innocent
or without regard to guilt or innocence. I think the latter are very,
very rare. I've seen plenty of the former in the civil context --
entire waves of lawsuits based on bad science regarding breast
implants, EMF, Bendectin, etc.


Granted that expecting perfection in any human endeavor leads always to
disappointment, some fields, like bridge design and construction, or
building and operating large passenger aircraft, have developed a
culture that rewards acknowledging and learning from mistakes. Legal
prosecution is not one of those fields. The best course for a
prosecutor seems to be to never relent, never rethink, to always double
down on mistakes, regardless of how obvious they may be in hindsight.

The voting public, who continue to yearn for heads on pikes, do share in
the blame.


And then there's John Burge who (finally) died the other day.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...story,amp.html

Not only his heinous acts themselves, not only destruction
of citizen's faith in everything, not only sending false
confessions to prosecutors and judges, but forever
besmirching the half of police who try to be honest.

Oh, and all that while the actual perps are still out
preying on the taxpayers.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


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