On 2018-07-13 13:01, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On Friday, July 13, 2018 at 12:29:23 PM UTC-4, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-07-11 13:47, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/10/2018 5:04 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-07-09 12:48, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/9/2018 12:12 AM, Tim McNamara wrote:

European cities have some tendency to be more compact with shorter
rides
(1-2 km) for work and errands. American urban areas tend to be spread
out so that we can all have our half acre of lawn or more.

Where I live, a 2 km ride will get me to and from the library, our
dentist, the post office, the pharmacy and one convenience/beer store.
Hardware, groceries, restaurants, credit union or anything else is
further. I'm fine with that, but most Americans (probably like most
Europeans) will never ride 10 miles to get to and from their credit
union.


The Dutch and Belgians used to be different. 10mi, 20mi, big deal. But
can't say about today as this was 30 years ago.

Sorry, but if you mean that most Dutch and Belgians used to ride
something like 20 miles per day, I don't believe you.


Note that I didn't say "most of the population". Most of my friends,
yes. Or rather, nearly all of them. Most of the population I can't say,
of course.

I suspect most Americans posting here could make the same statement, if by "The
Americans" we really mean "my riding friends." It says nothing about the
population as a whole. Instead, it describes severe selection bias.


That was exactly the difference. The Dutch and Belgians were not my
cycling friends, just regular friends. Here, while most of them do own a
garage queen or two or three, they routinely turn down rides. Especially
anything beyond 10 miles or if it includes stretches of county road sans
bike lane.

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