Buck wrote:

"Bernie" wrote in message
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Geez! I keep telling you. Just use toe clips less straps or Mt. Zefal
toe
cups. Any shoe will fit, you won't slip out, will spin as fast as you
choose,
even on rough ground, rr tracks, whatever and will not lose your footing
on the
pedal. What's wrong with that?

I suppose it depends on how often you ride with toe clips and straps. I
tried out those toe cups for a few weeks. I kept forgetting that just
because I had some pressure on my toe it did not mean that I could pull up.
I had a number of incidents where I tried to pull up and ended up getting
all squirrelly when my foot lifted completely of the pedal. I went back to
full clips and straps on my commuter.

The big trick for me is to use mountain clips which have a wider top to
spread the strap. I ride in everything from cross-trainers to dress shoes
and rarely have a problem. It also helps that I use an aggressive all-metal
"rat-trap" style pedal. I found that nylon pedals get a little too slick
when combined with certain shoes. Of course, I still have clipless pedals on
my mountain and road bikes....

-Buck

Each to his own taste of course. I find them such a no brainer easy ride
accessory that I doubt I will change to clips with straps at any time. If I
finally do get a decent road bike then I'll choke spring for clipless pedals
and shoes. Til then I'm good with the aforementioned.
I agree the metal pedals give the securest grip.
Bernie