Op 28-4-2012 17:44, SMS schreef:
On 4/28/2012 5:53 AM, Lou Holtman wrote:

As you said the slope of the TT is immaterial so IMO there is no (fit)
reasons to exclude these frames in your friends choice.

If you accept the old Midas Muffler logic, that's true. The other shop
welds a bunch of pipes onto the muffler they have in stock and assure
the customer, "Fit? We'll _make_ it fit."

You can take a few sizes of compact frames and use various seat posts,
cut the threadless steer tube to length, and use different angle and
reach stems, and "make it fit." But it isn't optimal. It's less
comfortable, you have excessive seat post flex, you can't mount enough
usable bottle cages, etc..

Unfortunately you'd drank the Kool Aid.



I drank nothing. You keep saying something that isn't true. I tried to
show you.
You see an excessive extended seatpost? Frame has two waterbottle mounts
which can be used normally, bike rides as comfortable as the bike with
the hortizontal TT, normal 110 mm stem etc. I know because I have both
and ride both. Do you? You just parroting someone else, who was wrong in
the first place. If you like the look of a horizontal TT better that is
OK with me, but if your advise to your friend is that this is the only
way he can be fitted properly on a bike, you are wrong.

Lou