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Old March 18th 05, 05:32 AM
Eric Harvey
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Default BAD seller - Mike Creed Sr.

I'll make one response here, for the sake of clarifying things. I actually
used to frequent this group quite a bit back in the mid-late 90s, but after
seeing some of the responses here....I remember why I left.

OMC, as he is being referred to here, had plenty of opportunity to make
things right. After my first inquiry, he said the package was "lost" in
customs and then implied that he had it back in his posession. He said he
would be re-sending it on Jan. 24. After not receiving it in 3 weeks
(again), I e-mailed him and asked for a refund as it was 3 months and I had
received no shoes/pedals. The reply was again about the package being lost.
Blame the post system once, but don't blame it twice. I have done HUNDREDS
of cross-border transactions, and never once has something truly been lost,
nor has anything taken THREE months to arrive. So don't blame Canada
(Kunich, you stupid f*cknut, shut your pie-hole). If any of you were in my
situation, what would you have done? After requesting a refund of my money,
and being assured by OMC that it would happen, NOTHING happened in the
following month. And that brought us to today.

I know OMC likes to read the newsgroups, and he also has his reputation in
the much-vaunted society of "fathers of nearly famous bike racing sons".
So, I posted the story, in its facts. And do you want to know the result:

OMC paid my PayPal account $300 today, by 2 PM. No more prompting on my
part, and no more false promises on his part. What exactly does this tell
you? It tells me that he is a bull**** artist who might make good on some
deals, but at the same time might also rip someone off. It also tells me
that he was unwilling to do it unless he might possibly face scorn and/or
embarassment from his precious little society. To me, the fact that he did
nothing until he felt he might have some egg on his face, that speaks
volumes about his character. But hey, if you clowns want to believe that
there is "another side to the story" and kiss OMC's ass because it makes you
feel closer to the bigtime then be my guest. I got my money back.

I don't care if you all want to flame me, assassinate my personality,
whatever. Go nuts, do your best in true r.b.r tradition. I know where my
morality lies, and I can count on hundreds of people I have sold bicycle
stuff to over the internet as satisfied customers. OMC cannot say the same.
Finally, if you want further evidence, in addition to the poster (Tommy aka
TA) who also alluded to a bad deal with OMC, I also received two private
e-mails from other frequenters of the groups who offered up their own
accounts of problematic deals with OMC. Sounds like a pattern.

Whatever,

Eric



"Eric Harvey" wrote in message
news:yVh_d.707472$Xk.60673@pd7tw3no...
Sorry for the cross-posting, but I just want to get the info out on this
a-hole. I have been doing bike-related buying and selling over the

internet
via newsgroups and websites since 1994 and I have never been "burned"

until
this transaction.

On Nov. 23, 2004, I paid Mr. Creed $300 USD via PayPal for a pair of new
Shimano R215 shoes and Dura-Ace SPD-SL pedals that were advertised on
roadbikereview.com. The agreement was to send the package via US Postal
service airmail to me in Canada. They did not arrive before Christmas, but

I
gave some extra grace period because this is a very busy time for the mail
system.

After not receiving anything by Jan. 11, 2005, I e-mailed Mr. Creed and
inquired. He was very responsive, even offering to "buy new shoes/pedals

and
send them". I told him to first check into the situation with the post
office. He replied on Jan. 21 saying that the USPS had found the package

in
customs and the label had been damaged, hence the delay. He said he would
re-send them by Monday Jan. 24.

By Feb. 17, I started to believe that nothing was coming. I sent Mr. Creed
an e-mail stating that I was unsure about the transaction and its
legitimacy, and that at this point I just wanted my money to be refunded

to
my PayPal account. Obviously I had no recourse to file a complaint via
PayPal because the 30 day window had expired (edit: it is actually 45

days,
still makes no difference). However, I told Mr. Creed that in the

interests
of fair trade he should refund my money. He replied, initially saying
something about the lost package, I replied back that I just wanted my
money, and he replied saying "refund forthcoming".

It is now Mar. 16, and I have not received a refund. Again, I fully

realize
that I don't really have any grounds, but I have told Mr. Creed that I

would
be posting about his trading habits here and on rec.bicycles newsgroups
where also frequents. I would fully recommend that anyone reading this to
never consider a purchase from Mr. Creed, regardless of the price and
promises.

Mr. Creed, I know you read these newsgroups. Don't try to engage me in a
conversation about the situation. It has been nearly 4 months since you
received my money and I have received nothing! I do not want to talk about
it on this forum or in e-mail. I just want you to simply refund my money

to
my PayPal account. That is the only honest solution you can provide at

this
point.

Eric




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