Actual time gap LA vs FC

According to ITV, the gap was 0.22 seconds, and the commentator
mentioned that as he crossed the line LA was messing with his gears
and not driving for the line.

'That was closer than I thought', mused Lance.

No kidding. Someone dropped the ball in updating the team on how close
they were.

On Jul 7, 12:58*pm, wrote:

... as he crossed the line LA was messing with his gears
and not driving for the line.

Yup, and he was the 5th man.
See:
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/video/...-4-minute.html
@~:20

DR

On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 14:19:30 -0700 (PDT), DirtRoadie
wrote:

On Jul 7, 12:58*pm, wrote:

... as he crossed the line LA was messing with his gears
and not driving for the line.

Yup, and he was the 5th man.
See:
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/video/...-4-minute.html
@~:20

DR

Somebody miscalculated in Astana. You just don't ease up knowing that
you're within one second of yellow. Johann is usually yelling in their
earpieces. My guess is that LA miscounted and thought he was 6th (or
4th), which would explain easing up at 3-4 feet from the line.

In the interview (part2) he seems to suggest that it's just as good to
win the stage and gain time on their rivals. But he's full of it. For
him to get yellow would be astounding and headline-worthy; epic, even.
Winning the stage is merely 'good', in comparison, imo.

He clearly blew it and I'm not sure he'll get the chance again.
Certainly, it's better for him not to dwell on it - that's our job,
heh.

Thanks for the link.

On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 14:19:30 -0700 (PDT), DirtRoadie
wrote:

On Jul 7, 12:58*pm, wrote:

... as he crossed the line LA was messing with his gears
and not driving for the line.

Yup, and he was the 5th man.
See:
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/video/...-4-minute.html
@~:20

DR

Oh, in addition, Lance says that had they gotten yellow they wouldn't
have defended it (tomorrow). That's utter hogwash. Of course they'd
have defended it during the next two flat stages - it'd be easy, all
they'd have to do is keep the peloton together and as usual prevent
any rivals from getting in a break-away. They'd do that no matter who
was in yellow. They'd let the sprinters win the stage, but that
doesn't affect the GC as he seems to imply.

Nobody wrote:
Oh, in addition, Lance says that had they gotten yellow they wouldn't
have defended it (tomorrow). That's utter hogwash. Of course they'd
have defended it during the next two flat stages

Sorta like USPS did after the 2004 Cambrai TTT when LANCE took yellow?

On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 16:14:10 -0700, "Robert Chung"
wrote:

Nobody wrote:
Oh, in addition, Lance says that had they gotten yellow they wouldn't
have defended it (tomorrow). That's utter hogwash. Of course they'd
have defended it during the next two flat stages

Sorta like USPS did after the 2004 Cambrai TTT when LANCE took yellow?


IIRC, they gave it away to Voeckler who kept it for several stages.
Different situation.

"Nobody" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 16:14:10 -0700, "Robert Chung"
wrote:

Nobody wrote:
Oh, in addition, Lance says that had they gotten yellow they wouldn't
have defended it (tomorrow). That's utter hogwash. Of course they'd
have defended it during the next two flat stages

Sorta like USPS did after the 2004 Cambrai TTT when LANCE took yellow?


IIRC, they gave it away to Voeckler who kept it for several stages.
Different situation.

You appear to not understand. The team DOES NOT want to defend a Yellow
Jersey over 2/3rds of the Tour. They don't have a team that will be able to
handle that.

On Jul 7, 4:45*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 16:14:10 -0700, "Robert Chung"

wrote:
Nobody wrote:
Oh, in addition, Lance says that had they gotten yellow they wouldn't
have defended it (tomorrow). That's utter hogwash. Of course they'd
have defended it during the next two flat stages

Sorta like USPS did after the 2004 Cambrai TTT when LANCE took yellow?

IIRC, they gave it away to Voeckler who kept it for several stages.
Different situation.



Dumbass -

It's the same situation.

Bruyneel has always defended the jersey only after the first set of
mountain passes has been traversed. Even that is a bit of a red
herring - his tactic is still the same: let suicide breakaways go if
they don't contain any of the contenders.

Before the mountains, it means giving up the jersey. After the
mountains it appears that they defend it, but it's only because the
time gaps are different. In any given stage, the tactics are the same.

thanks,

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.

On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 18:32:05 -0700, "Tom Kunich" cyclintom@yahoo. com
wrote:

"Nobody" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 16:14:10 -0700, "Robert Chung"
wrote:

Nobody wrote:
Oh, in addition, Lance says that had they gotten yellow they wouldn't
have defended it (tomorrow). That's utter hogwash. Of course they'd
have defended it during the next two flat stages

Sorta like USPS did after the 2004 Cambrai TTT when LANCE took yellow?


IIRC, they gave it away to Voeckler who kept it for several stages.
Different situation.

You appear to not understand. The team DOES NOT want to defend a Yellow
Jersey over 2/3rds of the Tour. They don't have a team that will be able to
handle that.

I said two flat stages. This is a little different situation and I do
think they'd make a modest effort to defend the jersey for two stages,
maybe just for the prestige points of having Lance in yellow. But you
may be right.

On Jul 7, 8:58*pm, wrote:
According to ITV, the gap was 0.22 seconds, and the commentator
mentioned that as he crossed the line LA was messing with his gears
and not driving for the line.

'That was closer than I thought', mused Lance.

No kidding. Someone dropped the ball in updating the team on how close
they were.

If I understand correctly, that time gap was difference in the
fractional parts (thousands of a second) between Cancellara and
Armstrong in the ITT. This time difference had nothing to do with the
TTT.

-ilan