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Road rage bus driver faces jail for swerving in to cyclist
On 06/01/2012 11:23, NM wrote:
Only the poor use buses and only the poor use cycles so I see no reason to become concerned. Yep historically this used to be the case and I guess is the reason we have laws that give so much favouritism to car drivers. However now cars are so cheap that any pikey can have one and there is no reason for the law to afford them the same respect that it once did for toff motorists. Additionally (particularly around the city of London) we have seen the rise of a new generation of affluent cyclist who are unwilling to doff their caps to what they see as unreasonable laws (red lights, pavement cycling etc). So I guess the law will need to catch up by increasing laws limiting car driver freedoms while at the same time extending more freedoms and protection to cyclist As always I'm sure the working class man who thought he had raised him self up a notch in the social strata by owning a car will rail at the unfairness of it all as the privileges are withdrawn. |
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Road rage bus driver faces jail for swerving in to cyclist
"Nick" wrote in message
eb.com... Additionally (particularly around the city of London) we have seen the rise of a new generation of affluent cyclist who are unwilling to doff their caps to what they see as unreasonable laws (red lights, pavement cycling etc). So I guess the law will need to catch up by increasing laws limiting car driver freedoms while at the same time extending more freedoms and protection to cyclist Why? Surely it is time that the existing law was enforced more stringently, so as to penalise cyclists in the same way as other road users such as drivers of cars, lorries and buses who flout it. In particular, cyclists should be subject to laws on red lights, pedestrian crossings and overtaking vehicles on the left when they are indicating left. The damage that a cyclist can cause to a pedestrian or vehicle is much less than a car or lorry can cause, but they can put themselves in danger (and try to blame it on the other road user even if he is obeying the law and the cyclist is not) and may cause a vehicle to swerve into the path of another road user in trying to avoid the cyclist. And there have been cases of cyclists injuring or killing pedestrians while riding on or across a pavement. Every road use (even cyclists!) has a responsibility for making sure they don't cause an accident. Dick Francis said, rather humorously, in his novel "Straight": "If a law is inconvenient, ignore it - it doesn't apply to you". Cyclists seem to take this as a code of practice when it comes to rules of the road! |
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Road rage bus driver faces jail for swerving in to cyclist
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 14:02:50 +0000, Nick
wrote: On 06/01/2012 11:23, NM wrote: Only the poor use buses and only the poor use cycles so I see no reason to become concerned. Yep historically this used to be the case and I guess is the reason we have laws that give so much favouritism to car drivers. However now cars are so cheap that any pikey can have one and there is no reason for the law to afford them the same respect that it once did for toff motorists. Additionally (particularly around the city of London) we have seen the rise of a new generation of affluent cyclist who are unwilling to doff their caps to what they see as unreasonable laws (red lights, pavement cycling etc). So I guess the law will need to catch up by increasing laws limiting car driver freedoms while at the same time extending more freedoms and protection to cyclist On the contrary. Existing laws will need to be enforced more stringently. |
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Road rage bus driver faces jail for swerving in to cyclist
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 12:08:05 +0000, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote: snip If you genuinely believe what you wrote then you are both ignorant and a sociopath. Actually I think it's much more likely that you were just trolling. Guy Ah yes - being a "sociopath" - I had forgotten that you were an expert. Are you still getting treatment? -- Total number of posts to URC from IP Address:80.254.146.36 over 6 years = 7 Guy Chapman : 5 Lou Knee: 2 Coincidence? (Guy Chapman Dell Magnet) |
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Road rage bus driver faces jail for swerving in to cyclist
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 14:33:33 +0000, Judith
wrote: On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 12:08:05 +0000, "Just zis Guy, you know?" wrote: snip If you genuinely believe what you wrote then you are both ignorant and a sociopath. Actually I think it's much more likely that you were just trolling. Guy Ah yes - being a "sociopath" - I had forgotten that you were an expert. Are you still getting treatment? I presume you are referring to the EMDR treatment for post-traumatic stress after my bike crash last year? Yes, the course of treatment is finished, it worked like a charm. I can now replay the incident in my mind without freezing up, and I have had no flashbacks since the treatment started. Marvellous result, entirely funded by the negligent driver's insurance. Thanks for your concern. Guy -- Guy Chapman, http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk The usenet price promise: all opinions are guaranteed to be worth at least what you paid for them. |
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Road rage bus driver faces jail for swerving in to cyclist
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 14:44:44 +0000
"Just zis Guy, you know?" wrote: I presume you are referring to the EMDR treatment for post-traumatic stress after my bike crash last year? Yes, the course of treatment is Post traumatic stress from coming off a bike? You wuss. finished, it worked like a charm. I can now replay the incident in my mind without freezing up, and I have had no flashbacks since the treatment started. Marvellous result, entirely funded by the negligent driver's insurance. Thanks for your concern. What did the nasty driver do - thoughtlessly drive through a green light while you were crossed on the red? B2003 |
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Road rage bus driver faces jail for swerving in to cyclist
Nick wrote:
On 06/01/2012 11:23, NM wrote: Only the poor use buses and only the poor use cycles so I see no reason to become concerned. Yep historically this used to be the case and I guess is the reason we have laws that give so much favouritism to car drivers. However now cars are so cheap that any pikey can have one and there is no reason for the law to afford them the same respect that it once did for toff motorists. Additionally (particularly around the city of London) we have seen the rise of a new generation of affluent cyclist who are unwilling to doff their caps to what they see as unreasonable laws (red lights, pavement cycling etc). certinaly london cycling clubs tend to be a sea of Mamils and the spending power that goes with it. a trip to the alps, or winter training holiday, and so on! snips roger -- www.rogermerriman.com |
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Road rage bus driver faces jail for swerving in to cyclist
On 06/01/2012 14:02, Nick wrote:
On 06/01/2012 11:23, NM wrote: Only the poor use buses and only the poor use cycles so I see no reason to become concerned. Yep historically this used to be the case and I guess is the reason we have laws that give so much favouritism to car drivers. However now cars are so cheap that any pikey can have one and there is no reason for the law to afford them the same respect that it once did for toff motorists. Additionally (particularly around the city of London) we have seen the rise of a new generation of affluent cyclist who are unwilling to doff their caps to what they see as unreasonable laws (red lights, pavement cycling etc). We call them "chavs". Not sure why you think they are "affluent". |
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Road rage bus driver faces jail for swerving in to cyclist
On 06/01/2012 14:25, Mortimer wrote:
"Nick" wrote in message eb.com... Additionally (particularly around the city of London) we have seen the rise of a new generation of affluent cyclist who are unwilling to doff their caps to what they see as unreasonable laws (red lights, pavement cycling etc). So I guess the law will need to catch up by increasing laws limiting car driver freedoms while at the same time extending more freedoms and protection to cyclist Dick Francis said, rather humorously, in his novel "Straight": "If a law is inconvenient, ignore it - it doesn't apply to you". Cyclists seem to take this as a code of practice when it comes to rules of the road! Well that is more a matter of subjective opinion than fact. Car drivers have always flouted the laws with respect to speeding, parking, etc, etc. Most cyclists and many pedestrians would argue that car drivers have been able to get away with huge liberties whilst expecting everyone else to keep out of their way and look out for their own safety. When car drivers were drawn from the upper and middle classes this was accepted by the uk jurisprudence system under the well know "one law for the rich and one for the poor" rule. All I was saying is that the transport user wealth profile has changed and hence expect to see more affluent cyclist expecting the rich/poor rule to apply to them. Now this may seem dreadfully unfair to you but given the pollution/deaths and general problems cars cause I think you would have a great deal of trouble justifying the present status quo in any kind of objective terms. |
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Road rage bus driver faces jail for swerving in to cyclist
On 06/01/2012 16:49, JNugent wrote:
On 06/01/2012 14:02, Nick wrote: On 06/01/2012 11:23, NM wrote: Only the poor use buses and only the poor use cycles so I see no reason to become concerned. Yep historically this used to be the case and I guess is the reason we have laws that give so much favouritism to car drivers. However now cars are so cheap that any pikey can have one and there is no reason for the law to afford them the same respect that it once did for toff motorists. Additionally (particularly around the city of London) we have seen the rise of a new generation of affluent cyclist who are unwilling to doff their caps to what they see as unreasonable laws (red lights, pavement cycling etc). We call them "chavs". Would that be the royal we? Not sure why you think they are "affluent". Obviously they aren't in comparison to yer majesty. |
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