The idiocy of Tom Sherman

Andy Evans wrote:
Andy is most likely just ignorant of correct posting procedure. I will cut
him some slack just this once.

Your kindness is touching.

Rush Limbaugh does this sort of thing all the time and he can be as wrong as
anybody.

You might just as well talk about Rasputin. I’m Welsh.

Ignorant of Rush Limbaugh [1] - you lucky *******!

It was the god damn Europeans that should have done something about
the
Balkans, not the US.

Quite right. If the USA had not imposed impossible conditions on
Milosovic during initial talks like free access of NATO troops
throughout Serbia and deals regarding pipelines crossing the former
Yugoslavia, Milosovic would not have stormed out and the whole deal
would have been settled between Serbia and Croatia as it should have
been.

From the USian point of view, USians can do no wrong in world affairs.
USians also react badly when contrary view are presented, since they
have been taught from childhood that the US is the source of good in the
world.

we had to step in to save the region from a genocide.

The USA should stay out of counties whose cultures and histories it is
utterly ignorant of. As it turned out, NATO should bear the blame for
the failure of negotiations.

I do not give the Russians credit for anything. Their sphere of
influence should be confined to Russia proper and not extend one inch
beyond
it.

Whereas the USA can interfere anywhere in the globe, even if it can’t
even pronounce the names of the coutries correctly (Kossovo, Iraq)…..

Pronounce? Heck, the average USian can not find these countries on a map.

I am in favor of 'realpolitik' at all times.

I’m in favour of politicians who have enough grounding in world
culture and history to have the wisdom to tread carefully and revive
the true art of diplomacy. All we have these days trying to “lead the
free world” is jumped up Hollywood actors, oil barons and lawyers.
Tomorrow we could have reality TV contestants.

And who is not also barking on the Internet? Surely not you?

I’m not averse to a bit of a bark. Woof.

[1] I have worked at two different jobs where people listened to the man
bloviate.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
“Mary had a little lamb / And when she saw it sicken /
She shipped it off to Packingtown / And now it’s labeled chicken.”

Tom Keats wrote:
In article ,
Tom Sherman writes:
Andy Evans wrote:
I call myself a liberal and yet I find myself, in many ways, being more conservative that the current crop of "conservatives" .... �Fiscal responsibility and a balanced budget, accountability for program outcomes, government having less intrusion into people's private lives...
That's just good government isn't it? Maybe liberals "intrude" more,
but people are pretty daft in the first place.

The Republican Party in the US has moved from being conservative to
reactionary.

I'd like to see Lou Dobbs suddenly get cream-pied
from stage right on live TV.

In mid-sentence.

Timing is everything.

This would be funny to see with all the shouting heads [1] currently on
television.

[1] aka Professional Hairstyles.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
“Mary had a little lamb / And when she saw it sicken /
She shipped it off to Packingtown / And now it’s labeled chicken.”

Tom Keats) wrote:
In article ,
Tim McNamara writes:

I call myself a liberal and yet I find myself, in many ways, being more
conservative that the current crop of "conservatives" in Washington and
most state capitols around the US. Fiscal responsibility and a balanced
budget, accountability for program outcomes, government having less
intrusion into people's private lives... the only freedom the
"conservatives" are concerned about these days is making sure favored
industries, corporations and cronies get free money from the taxpayers'
coffers, and don't have to put up with those pesky regulations.

I rather enjoyed George Carlin's remark about the American Revolution
being fostered by wealthy, white slave owners fighting to be "free."

I guess politics boils down to whomever deserves the Public Money
the most.

It is I. Without me around, the whole world would suck.
So support me, and you'll get to feel good about it.

Politics is just a condoned form of piracy.
We're /all/ pirates (especially the Greens.)

We are not real pirates however, or global warming would not be an issue.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
“Mary had a little lamb / And when she saw it sicken /
She shipped it off to Packingtown / And now it’s labeled chicken.”

In article
,
Andy Evans wrote:

I call myself a liberal and yet I find myself, in many ways, being
more conservative that the current crop of "conservatives" ....
?Fiscal responsibility and a balanced budget, accountability for
program outcomes, government having less intrusion into people's
private lives...

That's just good government isn't it? Maybe liberals "intrude" more,
but people are pretty daft in the first place.

People should be free to be daft, at least to a degree. As a former
governor of my state observed, you can't legislate against stupidity.

In article ,
Tom Keats) wrote:

Politics is just a condoned form of piracy. We're /all/ pirates
(especially the Greens.)

Capitalists even more so, not merely condoned but even sanctified in the
country.

People should be free to be daft, at least to a degree. As a former
governor of my state observed, you can't legislate against stupidity.

But I think you can - you can make guns illegal, smoking in public
spaces illegal, drugs illegal etc etc. We already have a legal system
that imposes penalties for all sorts of stupid and destructive
behaviour, and I believe that it is widely accepted.

Given the choice of freedom to carry guns or freedom to walk around in
public without encountering people with guns I know what I'd choose.

Andy

"Andy Evans" wrote in message
...

Given the choice of freedom to carry guns or freedom to walk around in
public without encountering people with guns I know what I'd choose.

The government's ability to freely impose any anti-Constitutional controls
on the population they prefer?

Tom Kunich wrote:
"Andy Evans" wrote in message
...

Given the choice of freedom to carry guns or freedom to walk around in
public without encountering people with guns I know what I'd choose.

The government's ability to freely impose any anti-Constitutional
controls on the population they prefer?

The US is not far from that point - one more terrorist moment (real or
false flag) should do it.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
“Mary had a little lamb / And when she saw it sicken /
She shipped it off to Packingtown / And now it’s labeled chicken.”

Of course the US is a democracy and as such a better type of
government than others mentioned, but foreign policy is an entity in
itself, democracy or not, and it doesn't help to confuse the two or
create non-sequitors like "all democracies have better foreign
policies".

Amen. But it's so much fun to criticize

Given the choice of freedom to carry guns or freedom to walk around in
public without encountering people with guns I know what I'd choose.

The government's ability to freely impose any anti-Constitutional controls
on the population they prefer?

I'm in the UK - I guess one benefit of not having a constitution is
that it doesn't get out of date. We had a lot of daft laws in the
nineteenth century but they all got repealed as they became archaic. I
mean, the death penalty for stealing a sheep, defacing London Bridge
or impersonating a Chelsea Pensioner. I think not, but the US
Constitution predates the repeal of all these. Not quite so easy to
change a constitution.

Andy