Anti-social behaviour

Ivor Jones wrote:
xBrimstone wrote:
Ivor Jones wrote:
Brimstone wrote:
"Adrian" wrote in message
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like they were saying :

Can you understand, "many posters grab a few seconds between
tasks at work, and really can't be arsed to get everything
right and proof read all posts"?

So you admit to stealing your employer's goods?

Put a value on the stolen "goods".

"X" amount of electricity at "N" pence per unit. There's also the
time he's being paid for that he's now using for his own purposes,
use of the equipment , rental charged at "C" pounds per hour, not
to mention the office furniture, heating, lighting etc etc.

I don't doubt a competent accountant or work study person would
come up with prices in very short order.

It doesn't take competence to shoot that down in flames.

(a) the electricity consumed by a work computer would not change
due to its usage. I don't think anyone turns off their work PC
when not using it for a few minutes, at least not in any office
I've ever been in. If they did, the current surges caused by
repeated bootups would probably *increase* consumption.

Change in the rate of consuption isn't the isse, usage is.

You specifically alluded to theft. How is usage, if it does not
result in loss of work time (see below) or an increase in power
consumption, theft..?

(b) No employee spends *every* minute of paid time doing work
related tasks. They could be having a tea break at their desk and
using the net whilst doing so.

Agreed that (most) people take breaks whilst working. It doesn't
give them the right to use the company's resources for personal
business.

It does if the employer allows it. How do you know they do not..?

(c) Rental is the same no matter what the equipment/line is being
used for.

Irrelevant.

How so..?

(d) Heating/lighting costs are the same. What has furniture got to
do with it..?

It's being used for personal, not company business.

So me sitting on my office chair while not working for the company is
theft of what, precisely..?


As I said, a competent accountant or work study person would give you the
figures in very short order. I'm not in either of those trades.

Brimstone wrote:
Ivor Jones wrote:

[snip]

So me sitting on my office chair while not working for the company
is theft of what, precisely..?


As I said, a competent accountant or work study person would give
you the figures in very short order. I'm not in either of those
trades.

A getout. A good one, but still a getout..! If I am on a break using
equipment which my employer has given me permission to use then am I still
stealing anything..?

Didn't think so.

I'll go home now then, shall I..?!

Ivor

Ivor Jones wrote:
Brimstone wrote:
Ivor Jones wrote:

[snip]

So me sitting on my office chair while not working for the company
is theft of what, precisely..?


As I said, a competent accountant or work study person would give
you the figures in very short order. I'm not in either of those
trades.

A getout. A good one, but still a getout..! If I am on a break using
equipment which my employer has given me permission to use then am I
still stealing anything..?

As I said (at the risk of repeating myself and becoming boring) a competent
accountant or work study person would give you a decision in very short
order.


Didn't think so.

That much has been noted.


I'll go home now then, shall I..?!


Just make sure you leave the chair behind.