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On Sep 29, 7:19*pm, Phil W Lee wrote:
Duane Hébert considered Sat, 29 Sep 2012 18:54:53
-0400 the perfect time to write:

On 9/29/2012 4:04 PM, Dan O wrote:
On Sep 29, 12:12 pm, Frank Krygowski
wrote:
landotter wrote:
I routinely ride a 15 mile urban commuting route to pick up the gf from work and either ride a fully decked out double racked rig that's 35 or so pounds or a 21 pound single speed. Both tend to do it in the exact amount of time. Why? Probably because traffic limits my speed far more than gear choice. I do like to switch it up

between the two bikes, simply for interest--but for speed? Nope. Certainly technology can give you an edge when racing, but it's mainly an illusion when utility cycling. You might be faster up a hill, but you have to average in mechanical reliability and the confidence that a proper city steed offers. Plus, I do love passing people wearing full kit while I'm pannier'd up and wearing Danish

clogs. Because I'm an asshole like that.

Some here may not approve of such heresy! *;-)

crap snipped
+1

-1

You pair just can't help yourselves, can you?

I hope you'll be very happy together where I don't have to read your
garbage.

What garbage? Because you disagree? Who's the asshole? ;-)

Dan O wrote:
On Sep 29, 12:12 pm, Frank
wrote:
landotter wrote:
I routinely ride a 15 mile urban commuting route to pick up the gf from work and either ride a fully decked out double racked rig that's 35 or so pounds or a 21 pound single speed. Both tend to do it in the exact amount of time. Why? Probably because traffic limits my speed far more than gear choice. I do like to switch it up between the two bikes, simply for interest--but for speed? Nope.

Certainly technology can give you an edge when racing, but it's mainly an illusion when utility cycling. You might be faster up a hill, but you have to average in mechanical reliability and the confidence that a proper city steed offers. Plus, I do love passing people wearing full kit while I'm pannier'd up and wearing Danish clogs. Because I'm an asshole like that.

Some here may not approve of such heresy! ;-)


Krygowski you're an asshole, but not like that. Please cite an
example of such disapproval...

Dan, I'd like to give you a bit more respect, but: You're like a
Pavlovian puppy, except with you it's not salivating at bells. It's
whining, yapping and crapping in the r.b.tech carpet whenever I post, no
matter what I post.

You said you were going to control yourself. But you're still not
housebroken.

- Frank Krygowski

On Sep 29, 2:04*pm, Dan O wrote:
On Sep 29, 12:12 pm, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

landotter wrote:
I routinely ride a 15 mile urban commuting route to pick up the gf from work and either ride a fully decked out double racked rig that's 35 or so pounds or a 21 pound single speed. Both tend to do it in the exact amount of time. Why? Probably because traffic limits my speed far more than gear choice. I do like to switch it up between the two bikes, simply for interest--but for speed? Nope.

Certainly technology can give you an edge when racing, but it's mainly an illusion when utility cycling. You might be faster up a hill, but you have to average in mechanical reliability and the confidence that a proper city steed offers. Plus, I do love passing people wearing full kit while I'm pannier'd up and wearing Danish clogs. Because I'm an asshole like that.

Some here may not approve of such heresy! *;-)

Krygowski you're an asshole, but not like that. *Please cite an
example of such disapproval. *People here understand the trade-offs of
durability and such, and don't seem to have any problem with people
using what they like. *They just don't like you poo-pooing *their*
choice. *I also like blowing by the Lance-a-likes on their snazzy
fenderless bikes with my 36-spoke straight-pull steel tubed bike w/
racks and panniers and 32 mm tires, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't
smoke them more easily on a bike more optimized for speed.

But aside from being the other term, Krygowksi is the engineer. Yet
Dan is the one with both (more) knowledge and perspective.
Give me the latter any day.

I might add that for people commuting here, traffic and traffic
signals play little part in commute time since neither exists in
abundance.
Outside the city limits a faster bike is a faster bike. Many prefer a
faster road bike, some do not.
And once within the city limits, one of the common and convenient
commute paths is a river trail through town. The type of bike makes no
difference there.
http://durangoconnect.com/animas-river-trail/

Many folks (here especially) commute on mountain bikes (1) in order
to be able to go play after work or (2) because that's what they
have.
Frank really does not understand "versatility." He just understands
what he does (and little else). And for some strange reason he gets
very upset if someone points out that "it depends." In Frank's world,
anyone whose perspective differs from his is WRONG. Very sad. And, as
a result, he's not very credible. He's mostly just viewed (VERY
accurately) as being an asshole.
Oh, sorry, was that uncivil?
Oh my goodness! That is considered a VULGARISM. I will assume that,
unless someone from Poland Oho corrects me, that is vulgar but not
"uncivil."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulgarism
It sure is hard be "tech" accurate while being civil. Oh wait, is
"civil" the opposite of "uncivil?"
Frank?
While it is unclear whether that is "uncivil" (Franks words,
BIITEOTB) I fully intended to portray him as "unpleasant ... or [of]
unrefined character"
That's what the data shows
But in the interest of diplomacy, let's use an analogous and
synonymous Sheldon ("Big Bang" not "ShelBroCo") terminology.http://
medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/anal+orifice
Frank (medically speaking) is an "anal orifice." Perhaps the
abbreviation "AO" will suffice for any future discussion.
I propose "Frank AO" as a term to refer to Frank in future postings
Because "Frank AO (aka Krygowski)" is an ASSHOLE (which may be most
accurate when capitalized, he is also an "asshole

DR

On Sep 29, 4:54*pm, Duane Hébert wrote:
On 9/29/2012 2:45 PM, landotter wrote:







On Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:51:47 AM UTC-5, Chalo wrote:
DirtRoadie wrote:

My SL bike is my version of a sports car and my Sport-Touring bike is my version of a heavy duty pickup truck.

I have to point out what a laughable standard that is for "heavy-duty

pickup". *Sounds more like a sports car that has a small trunk versus

one that doesn't even offer that much.

I have a flat bed sidecar bike that has toted six adults in the past,

and now sports two sturdy chairs on the load bed. *I have a 2.5' x 6'

cycle trailer that my wife used to carry home our washing machine, and

which I use regularly to carry up to about 400 lbs of groceries,

laundry and what have you. *When my wife goes to gigs within a few

miles, she loads up one or the other of these machines with her 50"

wide keyboard in its case, a keyboard stand, an accordion, a ukulele,

PA speakers, a couple of mic stands, an overnight bag full of cords

and stuff, and a hat box full of merchandise. *Try that with your so-

called "heavy duty pickup", why don't you?

These are not one-off stunts; they are just examples of what you can

do with a bicycle if you don't have a ridiculously myopic notion of

what constitutes "heavy duty". *Actually doing useful things with your

bike is way more gratifying and can be more fun than just adding 2mph

to the speed you'd be riding on a versatile, practical, durable

bike.

Here here. I routinely ride a 15 mile urban commuting route to pick up the gf from work and either ride a fully decked out double racked rig that's 35 or so pounds or a 21 pound single speed. Both tend to do it in the exact amount of time. Why? Probably because traffic limits my speed far more than gear choice. I do like to switch it up between the two bikes, simply for interest--but for speed? Nope.

My commute takes me from near the burbs to the "outskirts of town" so I
don't have a lot of actual urban commuting. *There are some lights and
some spots with a lot of traffic. *Much of it though I can do at 30-35k
with little stopping. *If I take the shorter route there's more traffic..
* I don't usually take the shorter route. Sometimes I may take the
touring bike. * I definitely have a slower speed on the touring bike.

Certainly technology can give you an edge when racing, but it's mainly an illusion when utility cycling. You might be faster up a hill, but you have to average in mechanical reliability and the confidence that a proper city steed offers. Plus, I do love passing people wearing full kit while I'm pannier'd up and wearing Danish clogs. Because I'm an asshole like that.

My road bike has proven to be as reliable as the old Bianchi. *I have
more confidence in handling the road bike when I'm in a tight situation.

We don't seem to have the same circumstances. *I think the important
thing is to be on a bike. *Take the one(s) that works for you.

+1
This is WAY over Frank's head as it involves scenarios other than
those he THINKS he is knowledgeable about.
DR

On Sep 29, 1:12*pm, Frank Krygowski
wrote:
landotter wrote:
I routinely ride a 15 mile urban commuting route to pick up the gf from work and either ride a fully decked out double racked rig that's 35 or so pounds or a 21 pound single speed. Both tend to do it in the exact amount of time. Why? Probably because traffic limits my speed far more than gear choice. I do like to switch it up between the two bikes, simply for interest--but for speed? Nope.

Certainly technology can give you an edge when racing, but it's mainly an illusion when utility cycling. You might be faster up a hill, but you have to average in mechanical reliability and the confidence that a proper city steed offers. Plus, I do love passing people wearing full kit while I'm pannier'd up and wearing Danish clogs. Because I'm an asshole like that.

Some here may not approve of such heresy! *;-)

--
- Frank Krygowski

There it is - the international symbol for Krygowskian smarm.
Funny thing is, we know it. Frank thinks he has to note it.
But he is not very bright, as he demonstrates on a per-post basis .
DR

landotter wrote:
On Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:51:47 AM UTC-5, Chalo wrote:
DirtRoadie wrote:



My SL bike is my version of a sports car and my Sport-Touring bike is
my version of a heavy duty pickup truck.



I have to point out what a laughable standard that is for "heavy-duty

pickup". Sounds more like a sports car that has a small trunk versus

one that doesn't even offer that much.



I have a flat bed sidecar bike that has toted six adults in the past,

and now sports two sturdy chairs on the load bed. I have a 2.5' x 6'

cycle trailer that my wife used to carry home our washing machine, and

which I use regularly to carry up to about 400 lbs of groceries,

laundry and what have you. When my wife goes to gigs within a few

miles, she loads up one or the other of these machines with her 50"

wide keyboard in its case, a keyboard stand, an accordion, a ukulele,

PA speakers, a couple of mic stands, an overnight bag full of cords

and stuff, and a hat box full of merchandise. Try that with your so-

called "heavy duty pickup", why don't you?



These are not one-off stunts; they are just examples of what you can

do with a bicycle if you don't have a ridiculously myopic notion of

what constitutes "heavy duty". Actually doing useful things with your

bike is way more gratifying and can be more fun than just adding 2mph

to the speed you'd be riding on a versatile, practical, durable

bike.

Here here. I routinely ride a 15 mile urban commuting route to pick up
the gf from work and either ride a fully decked out double racked rig
that's 35 or so pounds or a 21 pound single speed. Both tend to do it in
the exact amount of time. Why? Probably because traffic limits my speed
far more than gear choice. I do like to switch it up between the two
bikes, simply for interest--but for speed? Nope.

Certainly technology can give you an edge when racing, but it's mainly an
illusion when utility cycling. You might be faster up a hill, but you
have to average in mechanical reliability and the confidence that a
proper city steed offers. Plus, I do love passing people wearing full kit
while I'm pannier'd up and wearing Danish clogs. Because I'm an asshole like that.

Clogs?! Now that's just cruel. Although I guess you could affix SPD cleats
to them fairly easily.

yngh your witness in this is kinda 'like' cold fusion....

now what ? low end components have a flat response to inputs ?

C tides a sidecar ? how it work...roadtest wise.....???

the 3rd wheel is somewhat off the main line..

On Sep 29, 7:08 pm, Frank Krygowski
wrote:
Dan O wrote:
On Sep 29, 12:12 pm, Frank
wrote:
landotter wrote:
I routinely ride a 15 mile urban commuting route to pick up the gf from work and either ride a fully decked out double racked rig that's 35 or so pounds or a 21 pound single speed. Both tend to do it in the exact amount of time. Why? Probably because traffic limits my speed far more than gear choice. I do like to switch it up between the two bikes, simply for interest--but for speed? Nope.

Certainly technology can give you an edge when racing, but it's mainly an illusion when utility cycling. You might be faster up a hill, but you have to average in mechanical reliability and the confidence that a proper city steed offers. Plus, I do love passing people wearing full kit while I'm pannier'd up and wearing Danish clogs. Because I'm an asshole like that.

Some here may not approve of such heresy! ;-)

Krygowski you're an asshole, but not like that. Please cite an
example of such disapproval...

Dan, I'd like to give you a bit more respect, but: You're like a
Pavlovian puppy, except with you it's not salivating at bells. It's
whining, yapping and crapping in the r.b.tech carpet whenever I post, no
matter what I post.


Yeah, I know - a dopey little dog.

Look, never mind about citing "some here" disapproving "such heresy!"
I do not wish to encourage any more exasperation.

You said you were going to control yourself.

I expressed empathy for you pathos.

But you're still not
housebroken.


Nice regard.

On Sep 29, 12:12 pm, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

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Some here may not approve of such heresy! ;-)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTybGAAMyAI