Not Riding

On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 20:07:55 -0600, AMuzi wrote:

On 11/13/2020 7:02 PM, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 16:43:53 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 2:46:38 PM UTC-8, news18 wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 14:19:23 -0800, Tom Kunich wrote:

On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 12:48:52 PM UTC-8, news18 wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 08:27:45 -0800, Tom Kunich wrote:

I have been nursing a saddle sore all week long and it is almost gone
now. Today it is going to rain so tomorrow I will ride again. This is
something to look forward to since it has now reached the point in
California that a man that gave a Halloween run was fined a thousand
dollars for daring to defy the state orders to hide in place.

The tyranny has arrived. I wonder how long until the civil war has
arrived and Biden with all of his Constitutional training uses the US
Military in contravention of the Constitution to quell the uprising?
Lol, the orange blimp is only ****ed because he couldn't make t happen.
Something about your "Nations Constitution".
You funny little cock suckers don't have a bill of rights. That is how
they could beat a woman for not following tyrannical commands. You are
nothing more than invaders in what used to be a clean land.
Typical tommy ad homien.
Waste of time telling me you fetish.
Australians all live in a democratic country.
We require social responsibility.
Elementary, if you attack plod ere, you can expect to be beaten. In the
USA show would have been strangled or shot.
Name a country that hasn't been invaded, multiple times.
Australia has had at least three.
Capitalism ruins every country it touches.
For that matter, organised religion does too.
A democratic country where those big manly cops beat up a woman. We've got your number. Come here and show me your democracy.

What ever are you talking about? In the U.S. we shoot them dead. See
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...ootings-women/
"Nearly 250 women have been fatally shot by police since 2015"

Gee, nearly 50 killed every year and you are going on about one women
who was beaten but not killed?

You really "aren't with it" are you Tommy.


If mothers would teach their daughters no to confront people
with a weapon, especially police, that could be mostly avoided.


But, but... It's a free country, everybody says so. So, why not carry
a gun, and wave it about. After all, "I got Rights!"


On the other hand my personal experiences seem to indicate that
standing perfectly still with the hands clearly visible and away from
the body and speaking in an extremely polite manner may prove to be
the best solution to problems :-)

--
Cheers,

John B.

On 14/11/2020 04:59, Ralph Barone wrote:
AMuzi wrote:
On 11/13/2020 6:14 PM, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 08:27:45 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote:

I have been nursing a saddle sore all week long and it is almost gone
now. Today it is going to rain so tomorrow I will ride again. This is
something to look forward to since it has now reached the point in
California that a man that gave a Halloween run was fined a thousand
dollars for daring to defy the state orders to hide in place.

The tyranny has arrived. I wonder how long until the civil war has
arrived and Biden with all of his Constitutional training uses the US
Military in contravention of the Constitution to quell the uprising?

But Tommy, U.S. law allows the use of the Military to counter an
insurrection.

From Title 10 US Code the President may use the militia or Armed
Forces to:

§ 331 – Suppress an insurrection against a State government at the
request of the Legislature or, if not in session, the Governor.

§ 332 – Suppress unlawful obstruction or rebellion against the
U.S.

§ 333 – Suppress insurrection or domestic violence if it (1)
hinders the execution of the laws to the extent that a part or class
of citizens are deprived of Constitutional rights and the State is
unable or refuses to protect those rights or (2) obstructs the
execution of any Federal law or impedes the course of justice under
Federal laws.)

See Tommy, just as I've ,said, "You Don't Know What You Are Talking
About"!


Let us all sincerely hope that can be avoided.

A brief perusal of history with show that in civil wars the
military splits as well as the populace.


Civil wars tend to be most uncivil.

What about the "Mild Disagreement Of Views" wars?

On 14/11/2020 02:16, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 16:46:52 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 4:14:20 PM UTC-8, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 08:27:45 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote:

I have been nursing a saddle sore all week long and it is almost gone now. Today it is going to rain so tomorrow I will ride again. This is something to look forward to since it has now reached the point in California that a man that gave a Halloween run was fined a thousand dollars for daring to defy the state orders to hide in place.

The tyranny has arrived. I wonder how long until the civil war has arrived and Biden with all of his Constitutional training uses the US Military in contravention of the Constitution to quell the uprising?
But Tommy, U.S. law allows the use of the Military to counter an
insurrection.

From Title 10 US Code the President may use the militia or Armed
Forces to:

§ 331 – Suppress an insurrection against a State government at the
request of the Legislature or, if not in session, the Governor.

§ 332 – Suppress unlawful obstruction or rebellion against the
U.S.

§ 333 – Suppress insurrection or domestic violence if it (1)
hinders the execution of the laws to the extent that a part or class
of citizens are deprived of Constitutional rights and the State is
unable or refuses to protect those rights or (2) obstructs the
execution of any Federal law or impedes the course of justice under
Federal laws.)

See Tommy, just as I've ,said, "You Don't Know What You Are Talking
About"!
Your education is showing again. You're talking about the National Guard. But don't let that bother you. You were born stupid, you lived stupid and so you will die. Satan has a space reserved for you in the lake of fire and you should enjoy an eternity of torture.

No Tommy. You are, as usual, wrong.

Title 10 of the United States Code outlines the role of armed forces
in the United States Code. It provides the legal basis for the roles,
missions and organization of each of the services as well as the
United States Department of Defense

10 U.S. Code § 253 - Interference with State and Federal law

The President, by using the militia or the armed forces, or both, or
by any other means, shall take such measures as he considers necessary
to suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful
combination, or conspiracy, if it—

(1) so hinders the execution of the laws of that State, and of the
United States within the State, that any part or class of its people
is deprived of a right, privilege, immunity, or protection named in
the Constitution and secured by law, and the constituted authorities
of that State are unable, fail, or refuse to protect that right,
privilege, or immunity, or to give that protection; or

(2) opposes or obstructs the execution of the laws of the United
States or impedes the course of justice under those laws.
In any situation covered by clause (1), the State shall be considered
to have denied the equal protection of the laws secured by the
Constitution.

So, yet again you blather on about a subject which you so obviously
know nothing at all about.

Don't you feel even a bit shy at being shown to be a fool... so often?

Just like his Loser hero! I was going to say Orange, but he seems to be
missing the carrot baths these days.

I am not at all convinced Biden is going to be a good(for a given value
of) president, but compared to the alternative? And also Tom is having
an aneurysm, which is amusing. Every cloud and all that.

On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 16:43:53 -0800, Tom Kunich wrote:

On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 2:46:38 PM UTC-8, news18 wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 14:19:23 -0800, Tom Kunich wrote:

On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 12:48:52 PM UTC-8, news18 wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 08:27:45 -0800, Tom Kunich wrote:

I have been nursing a saddle sore all week long and it is almost
gone now. Today it is going to rain so tomorrow I will ride again.
This is something to look forward to since it has now reached the
point in California that a man that gave a Halloween run was fined
a thousand dollars for daring to defy the state orders to hide in
place.

The tyranny has arrived. I wonder how long until the civil war has
arrived and Biden with all of his Constitutional training uses the
US Military in contravention of the Constitution to quell the
uprising?
Lol, the orange blimp is only ****ed because he couldn't make t
happen.
Something about your "Nations Constitution".
You funny little cock suckers don't have a bill of rights. That is
how they could beat a woman for not following tyrannical commands.
You are nothing more than invaders in what used to be a clean land.
Typical tommy ad homien.
Waste of time telling me you fetish.
Australians all live in a democratic country.
We require social responsibility.
Elementary, if you attack plod ere, you can expect to be beaten. In the
USA show would have been strangled or shot.
Name a country that hasn't been invaded, multiple times.
Australia has had at least three.
Capitalism ruins every country it touches.
For that matter, organised religion does too.
A democratic country where those big manly cops beat up a woman. We've
got your number. Come here and show me your democracy.

Are you paying for the return air fare?"

On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 17:08:33 -0800, Tom Kunich wrote:

Women in the United States are treated just like men, if you threaten
anyone with a weapon and do not relinquish it when ordered to by a cop
you are shot dead. In Australia if you are standing in your own front
yard without a mask a couple of big burly cops with night sticks beat
you nearly to death in front of their children.

Do you have a url for this imaginary event?

One woman was charged with advocating breaking with reference to measures
to control covid-19. Se was 'arrested' with physical restraint when she
threatened plod and refused to give an undertaking that she would cease
tell others to break the law.

Another was walking down the street without a mask on, whch was alegal
requirement at the time, and when plod stopped her she became aggressive
and violent. Naturally they returned the favour.

FYI, only a few rat bags have been opposed to the lock down and mask
requirements in Australia. We have only had 907 deaths from covid-19 and
the only infections in the country recently have all been from people
allowed to return from overseas and were detected during thier fortnght
compulsory quarantien.



Seem like the kind of
person you admire John. Let me know when you plan on visiting the states
and I'll give you a warm welcome right in the airport.

Once again tommyys true nature is on display.

On 11/13/2020 9:59 PM, Ralph Barone wrote:
AMuzi wrote:
On 11/13/2020 6:14 PM, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 08:27:45 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote:

I have been nursing a saddle sore all week long and it is almost gone
now. Today it is going to rain so tomorrow I will ride again. This is
something to look forward to since it has now reached the point in
California that a man that gave a Halloween run was fined a thousand
dollars for daring to defy the state orders to hide in place.

The tyranny has arrived. I wonder how long until the civil war has
arrived and Biden with all of his Constitutional training uses the US
Military in contravention of the Constitution to quell the uprising?

But Tommy, U.S. law allows the use of the Military to counter an
insurrection.

From Title 10 US Code the President may use the militia or Armed
Forces to:

§ 331 – Suppress an insurrection against a State government at the
request of the Legislature or, if not in session, the Governor.

§ 332 – Suppress unlawful obstruction or rebellion against the
U.S.

§ 333 – Suppress insurrection or domestic violence if it (1)
hinders the execution of the laws to the extent that a part or class
of citizens are deprived of Constitutional rights and the State is
unable or refuses to protect those rights or (2) obstructs the
execution of any Federal law or impedes the course of justice under
Federal laws.)

See Tommy, just as I've ,said, "You Don't Know What You Are Talking
About"!


Let us all sincerely hope that can be avoided.

A brief perusal of history with show that in civil wars the
military splits as well as the populace.


Civil wars tend to be most uncivil.


+1


--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 11/13/2020 10:12 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 18:36:56 -0600, AMuzi wrote:

A brief perusal of history with show that in civil wars the
military splits as well as the populace.

It wouldn't be much of a war if the miltary were all on the same side.


for 'Our Recent Unpleasantness', some among 'best' of our
officer corps (such as Lee, first in his class at West
Point) faced some of the 'worst' (Grant, nearly expelled,
bottom of his class).



--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 11/13/2020 10:39 PM, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 20:07:55 -0600, AMuzi wrote:

On 11/13/2020 7:02 PM, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 16:43:53 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 2:46:38 PM UTC-8, news18 wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 14:19:23 -0800, Tom Kunich wrote:

On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 12:48:52 PM UTC-8, news18 wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 08:27:45 -0800, Tom Kunich wrote:

I have been nursing a saddle sore all week long and it is almost gone
now. Today it is going to rain so tomorrow I will ride again. This is
something to look forward to since it has now reached the point in
California that a man that gave a Halloween run was fined a thousand
dollars for daring to defy the state orders to hide in place.

The tyranny has arrived. I wonder how long until the civil war has
arrived and Biden with all of his Constitutional training uses the US
Military in contravention of the Constitution to quell the uprising?
Lol, the orange blimp is only ****ed because he couldn't make t happen.
Something about your "Nations Constitution".
You funny little cock suckers don't have a bill of rights. That is how
they could beat a woman for not following tyrannical commands. You are
nothing more than invaders in what used to be a clean land.
Typical tommy ad homien.
Waste of time telling me you fetish.
Australians all live in a democratic country.
We require social responsibility.
Elementary, if you attack plod ere, you can expect to be beaten. In the
USA show would have been strangled or shot.
Name a country that hasn't been invaded, multiple times.
Australia has had at least three.
Capitalism ruins every country it touches.
For that matter, organised religion does too.
A democratic country where those big manly cops beat up a woman. We've got your number. Come here and show me your democracy.

What ever are you talking about? In the U.S. we shoot them dead. See
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...ootings-women/
"Nearly 250 women have been fatally shot by police since 2015"

Gee, nearly 50 killed every year and you are going on about one women
who was beaten but not killed?

You really "aren't with it" are you Tommy.


If mothers would teach their daughters no to confront people
with a weapon, especially police, that could be mostly avoided.


But, but... It's a free country, everybody says so. So, why not carry
a gun, and wave it about. After all, "I got Rights!"


On the other hand my personal experiences seem to indicate that
standing perfectly still with the hands clearly visible and away from
the body and speaking in an extremely polite manner may prove to be
the best solution to problems :-)



We agree on this. Carrying is a right. Brandishing and
assault are crimes. Meanwhile:

https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2...quare-pershing

No judge in Cook County will wonder what the shooter was
thinking when he grabbed a pistol after being stopped. No,
nothing to see here, just an unfortunate event.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Tosspot wrote:
On 14/11/2020 04:59, Ralph Barone wrote:
AMuzi wrote:
On 11/13/2020 6:14 PM, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 08:27:45 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote:

I have been nursing a saddle sore all week long and it is almost gone
now. Today it is going to rain so tomorrow I will ride again. This is
something to look forward to since it has now reached the point in
California that a man that gave a Halloween run was fined a thousand
dollars for daring to defy the state orders to hide in place.

The tyranny has arrived. I wonder how long until the civil war has
arrived and Biden with all of his Constitutional training uses the US
Military in contravention of the Constitution to quell the uprising?

But Tommy, U.S. law allows the use of the Military to counter an
insurrection.

From Title 10 US Code the President may use the militia or Armed
Forces to:

§ 331 – Suppress an insurrection against a State government at the
request of the Legislature or, if not in session, the Governor.

§ 332 – Suppress unlawful obstruction or rebellion against the
U.S.

§ 333 – Suppress insurrection or domestic violence if it (1)
hinders the execution of the laws to the extent that a part or class
of citizens are deprived of Constitutional rights and the State is
unable or refuses to protect those rights or (2) obstructs the
execution of any Federal law or impedes the course of justice under
Federal laws.)

See Tommy, just as I've ,said, "You Don't Know What You Are Talking
About"!


Let us all sincerely hope that can be avoided.

A brief perusal of history with show that in civil wars the
military splits as well as the populace.


Civil wars tend to be most uncivil.

What about the "Mild Disagreement Of Views" wars?


“Ooh! Why I’ve half a mind to seat you next to Aunt Ethyl at Sunday dinner
next week if won’t stop spouting your heretical views.�

On 11/14/2020 8:35 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/13/2020 10:12 PM, Joy Beeson wrote:
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 18:36:56 -0600, AMuzi wrote:

A brief perusal of history with show that in civil wars the
military splits as well as the populace.

It wouldn't be much of a war if the miltary were all on the same side.


for 'Our Recent Unpleasantness', some among 'best' of our officer corps
(such as Lee, first in his class at West Point) faced some of the
'worst' (Grant, nearly expelled, bottom of his class).

I've known of cases where very inept students rose to the occasion when
given responsibilities on the job.

I've also known of cases where immense wealth or other resources allowed
less capable people to beat more capable people.

I suspect with Lee vs. Grant, both phenomena played a part.


--
- Frank Krygowski