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On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 1:01:57 AM UTC+1, wrote:
On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 5:21:00 PM UTC-7, Mark J. wrote: It seems RBT has so much time on its hands that recently it has taken up religious discussions of a, well, religious nature. I thought religious discussions on RBT were supposed to fall into the traditional categories: *Greased vs non-greased tapers *Symmetric vs non-symmetric wheel lacing *Braze-on vs clamp-on front derailleurs *Tubulars vs clinchers *Wheels hanging from upper spokes or standing on lower spokes or the more recent *Disc vs Rim brakes. To remind you of our proper heritage, and having way too much time on my hands, I submit the following scriptures, discovered on ancient scroll fragments. -Mark J ================================================== ================= In the beginning was the wheel, and the wheel was with Jobst, and the wheel was Jobst's. And the wheel was stress-relieved and rolled among us, round and true. And the Truth spake unto Jobst, and said unto him, thou shalt lubricate the taper of the spindle, with fine grease shalt thou lubricate it. If any man does not lubricate the taper of the spindle, thou shalt not suffer that man to live in peace, but shalt smite him with the sword of thy keyboard. And there came a scoffer, named Tullio the Countryman[1], and he spake, saying Woe unto he that greaseth the spindle taper. Thou shalt remove from the taper any speck of grease, or surely thou shalt split thy crankset. And great was the enmity between them. [1] Some scholars render his name Tullio the Rustic. The Bike Shop of ISO Now the whole world was of one threading and of one standard, and it came to pass, as they migrated to the plains of Velocio, they said to one another, Come, let us build a bike shop, with standards that aspire unto heaven, and let us make us a name; lest our bicycle components be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. And The Industry came down to see the shop and the standards which the people builded, and said Behold, their standard is one and they have all one threading, and this is only the beginning of what they shall do. No advancement in cycling which they have imagined to do will now be restrained from them, and besides, how shall we sell new components? Come, let us go down, and there confound their standards, that they may not use one another's components. So The Industry gave each their own threading and their own standard, and Lo, there was Ergo and STI and Double Tap, and HG, Exa-Drive and XD, and BB30, BB90, BBRight, PF30, and T47, and 650B, and direct mount, and Isis, Octalink and Power Spline, and all nature of abominations that creepeth upon the earth. And their components were scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth, and they left off building the shop. Therefore is the name of it called ISO, because there was such a multitude of standards that all the peoples proclaimed I SO wanteth to find a part that fits. The Collection of Andrew of Muzi In those days the peloton was proud and given to cliques and the earth was filled with scorn. Now Andrew of Muzi was an upright mechanic, and his brazing was righteous; he was blameless among those that wielded a torch. And The Truth spake unto Andrew and said Make thee a shop of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the shop, and of every bicycle component of all brands, two of every type shalt thou bring into the shop and make photographs thereof to share with the unenlightened. Of hubs and their kind, and of stems after their kind, and of every rolling thing on the earth after its kind, two of every sort shall come unto thee, you shalt preserve them. For Lo, choice is good, and what the customer wanteth he shall find, and let us not heap scorn upon the choices of others. And the Arc-en-Ciel rim appeared as a sign unto them. Proverbs and Parables Braze-on front derailleurs are the work of the devil. -Saint Sheldon the Brown The wise man based his wheel upon high tension to stand upon the lower spokes. And the riders' weight descended, and the potholes came, and the torque pulled upon that wheel, and it collapsed not, for it was founded on high tension. The foolish man based his wheel upon low tension to hang from the higher spokes. And the riders' weight descended, and the potholes came, and the torque pulled upon that wheel, and it collapsed, and great was the collapse of it. - Jobst Fret not thy crankset faces, but rather collet thy pedal spindles, and thy pedal eye shall be saved. - Jobst What home mechanic having ten ball bearings, if she loseth one, doth not light a candle, and sweep the garage, and seek diligently till she find it? And when she hath found it, she calleth her friends and her neighbours together, saying, Rejoice with me; for I have found the bearing which I had lost, and now I need not journey to the bike shop. It is easier for a tandem to pass through the eye of a cable ferrule than for RBT to be of one accord on any subject. Would you think it better to mention the political problems in Seattle that are bound to spread to Portland any moment? (That ought to get Jay hopping mad). You're a wicked man, Tom Munich. Wicked funny, that is. In Portland the cops took down the Jacobins' Free State Preserve within hours -- because it was in front of the the Mayor's mansion. It seems some of you have to put up and shut up, and some can call on the police to act. Of course, Jay will have a transparent rationalisation for the disparity. Andre Jute Nauseated |
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On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 1:01:57 AM UTC+1, wrote:
On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 5:21:00 PM UTC-7, Mark J. wrote: It seems RBT has so much time on its hands that recently it has taken up religious discussions of a, well, religious nature. I thought religious discussions on RBT were supposed to fall into the traditional categories: [snip] It is easier for a tandem to pass through the eye of a cable ferrule than for RBT to be of one accord on any subject. Would you think it better to mention the political problems in Seattle that are bound to spread to Portland any moment? (That ought to get Jay hopping mad). You're a wicked man, Tom Kunich. Wicked funny, that is. In Portland the cops took down the Jacobins' Free State Preserve within hours -- because it was in front of the the Mayor's mansion. It seems some of you have to put up and shut up, and some can call on the police to act. Of course, Jay will have a transparent rationalisation for the disparity. Andre Jute Nauseated |
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On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 11:58:23 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 1:01:57 AM UTC+1, wrote: On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 5:21:00 PM UTC-7, Mark J. wrote: It seems RBT has so much time on its hands that recently it has taken up religious discussions of a, well, religious nature. I thought religious discussions on RBT were supposed to fall into the traditional categories: [snip] It is easier for a tandem to pass through the eye of a cable ferrule than for RBT to be of one accord on any subject. Would you think it better to mention the political problems in Seattle that are bound to spread to Portland any moment? (That ought to get Jay hopping mad). You're a wicked man, Tom Kunich. Wicked funny, that is. In Portland the cops took down the Jacobins' Free State Preserve within hours -- because it was in front of the the Mayor's mansion. It seems some of you have to put up and shut up, and some can call on the police to act. Of course, Jay will have a transparent rationalisation for the disparity. Mayor Ted lives in a condo. This is what he thinks of the Seattle situation, courtesy of Fox news: https://www.kptv.com/news/protesters...b4ca549ba.html Isn't this the correct response? Ted rides a bike. We have a history of bicycle riding mayors, even fictional ones. -- Jay Beattie. |
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On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 1:21:44 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 11:58:23 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote: On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 1:01:57 AM UTC+1, wrote: On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 5:21:00 PM UTC-7, Mark J. wrote: It seems RBT has so much time on its hands that recently it has taken up religious discussions of a, well, religious nature. I thought religious discussions on RBT were supposed to fall into the traditional categories: [snip] It is easier for a tandem to pass through the eye of a cable ferrule than for RBT to be of one accord on any subject. Would you think it better to mention the political problems in Seattle that are bound to spread to Portland any moment? (That ought to get Jay hopping mad). You're a wicked man, Tom Kunich. Wicked funny, that is. In Portland the cops took down the Jacobins' Free State Preserve within hours -- because it was in front of the the Mayor's mansion. It seems some of you have to put up and shut up, and some can call on the police to act. Of course, Jay will have a transparent rationalisation for the disparity. Mayor Ted lives in a condo. This is what he thinks of the Seattle situation, courtesy of Fox news: https://www.kptv.com/news/protesters...b4ca549ba.html Isn't this the correct response? Ted rides a bike. We have a history of bicycle riding mayors, even fictional ones. -- Jay Beattie. Being nice to these sorts of people isn't going to work you know. Night sticks and broken heads are the only thing that really makes an impression on them. |
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On 6/23/2020 1:21 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 11:58:23 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote: On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 1:01:57 AM UTC+1, wrote: On Sunday, June 21, 2020 at 5:21:00 PM UTC-7, Mark J. wrote: It seems RBT has so much time on its hands that recently it has taken up religious discussions of a, well, religious nature. I thought religious discussions on RBT were supposed to fall into the traditional categories: [snip] It is easier for a tandem to pass through the eye of a cable ferrule than for RBT to be of one accord on any subject. Would you think it better to mention the political problems in Seattle that are bound to spread to Portland any moment? (That ought to get Jay hopping mad). You're a wicked man, Tom Kunich. Wicked funny, that is. In Portland the cops took down the Jacobins' Free State Preserve within hours -- because it was in front of the the Mayor's mansion. It seems some of you have to put up and shut up, and some can call on the police to act. Of course, Jay will have a transparent rationalisation for the disparity. Mayor Ted lives in a condo. This is what he thinks of the Seattle situation, courtesy of Fox news: https://www.kptv.com/news/protesters...b4ca549ba.html Isn't this the correct response? Ted rides a bike. We have a history of bicycle riding mayors, even fictional ones. -- Jay Beattie. C'mon guys, this is the RBT religious issues thread. Down with Un-Greased Taperians! Can a righteous man ride tubeless? What /exactly/ does stress-relieving spokes DO? DOES a spoked wheel really stand on its lower spokes? To Disk or Not to Disk, that is the question! Get with the program! Mark J. |
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On 6/23/2020 1:21 PM, jbeattie wrote:
snip Mayor Ted lives in a condo. This is what he thinks of the Seattle situation, courtesy of Fox news: https://www.kptv.com/news/protesters...b4ca549ba.html Isn't this the correct response? Ted rides a bike. We have a history of bicycle riding mayors, even fictional ones. -- Jay Beattie. My nephew lives in Seattle, right on the border of the CHOP zone. They had to evacuate, before it was formed, because tear gas was coming into their condominium and affecting their baby. They came back once, and then there was more tear gas, so they went across the country to stay with their relatives. I hope they can clear the CHOP zone without the use of more tear gas. |
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On 6/24/2020 5:42 PM, sms wrote:
On 6/23/2020 1:21 PM, jbeattie wrote: snip Mayor Ted lives in a condo. This is what he thinks of the Seattle situation, courtesy of Fox news: https://www.kptv.com/news/protesters...b4ca549ba.html Isn't this the correct response? Ted rides a bike. We have a history of bicycle riding mayors, even fictional ones. -- Jay Beattie. My nephew lives in Seattle, right on the border of the CHOP zone. They had to evacuate, before it was formed, because tear gas was coming into their condominium and affecting their baby. They came back once, and then there was more tear gas, so they went across the country to stay with their relatives. I hope they can clear the CHOP zone without the use of more tear gas. Just call up Ms Durkan, Mayor-to-Mayor, and offer to take all of them in your town. You probably have some productive tax paying properties they'd like and your police would appreciate a paid vacation somewhere else I'll bet. You'll be known as the author of Seattle's solution AND prove to all that you're down with the revolution. Win-win. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 15:42:39 -0700, sms
wrote: On 6/23/2020 1:21 PM, jbeattie wrote: snip Mayor Ted lives in a condo. This is what he thinks of the Seattle situation, courtesy of Fox news: https://www.kptv.com/news/protesters...b4ca549ba.html Isn't this the correct response? Ted rides a bike. We have a history of bicycle riding mayors, even fictional ones. -- Jay Beattie. My nephew lives in Seattle, right on the border of the CHOP zone. They had to evacuate, before it was formed, because tear gas was coming into their condominium and affecting their baby. They came back once, and then there was more tear gas, so they went across the country to stay with their relatives. I hope they can clear the CHOP zone without the use of more tear gas. I think that the CHOP zones are a great idea, in fact there should be more of them. Of course they will have to be fenced to preclude the entrance of those horrible police so each city could partition off a section of their area and those who descry the police could go there to live. Think how wonderful it would be. No more Black people being killed by police and without those murderous police the population of the "Zone" would have complete freedom. Truly Heaven on Earth! Of course, there would have to be police, outside the fence, of course, to protect those in "inside" from the "outside Mob", locked gates and all. But that would be rather simple to accomplish. Think of it, a wholly free population, free to do anything that they wanted at any time. Paradise! -- cheers, John B. |
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On 6/24/2020 9:32 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 15:42:39 -0700, sms wrote: On 6/23/2020 1:21 PM, jbeattie wrote: snip Mayor Ted lives in a condo. This is what he thinks of the Seattle situation, courtesy of Fox news: https://www.kptv.com/news/protesters...b4ca549ba.html Isn't this the correct response? Ted rides a bike. We have a history of bicycle riding mayors, even fictional ones. -- Jay Beattie. My nephew lives in Seattle, right on the border of the CHOP zone. They had to evacuate, before it was formed, because tear gas was coming into their condominium and affecting their baby. They came back once, and then there was more tear gas, so they went across the country to stay with their relatives. I hope they can clear the CHOP zone without the use of more tear gas. I think that the CHOP zones are a great idea, in fact there should be more of them. Of course they will have to be fenced to preclude the entrance of those horrible police so each city could partition off a section of their area and those who descry the police could go there to live. Think how wonderful it would be. No more Black people being killed by police and without those murderous police the population of the "Zone" would have complete freedom. Truly Heaven on Earth! Of course, there would have to be police, outside the fence, of course, to protect those in "inside" from the "outside Mob", locked gates and all. But that would be rather simple to accomplish. Think of it, a wholly free population, free to do anything that they wanted at any time. Paradise! Well, there's this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freetown_Christiania As I understand, it's not exactly paradise, but not exactly hell. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 21:46:40 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote: On 6/24/2020 9:32 PM, John B. wrote: On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 15:42:39 -0700, sms wrote: On 6/23/2020 1:21 PM, jbeattie wrote: snip Mayor Ted lives in a condo. This is what he thinks of the Seattle situation, courtesy of Fox news: https://www.kptv.com/news/protesters...b4ca549ba.html Isn't this the correct response? Ted rides a bike. We have a history of bicycle riding mayors, even fictional ones. -- Jay Beattie. My nephew lives in Seattle, right on the border of the CHOP zone. They had to evacuate, before it was formed, because tear gas was coming into their condominium and affecting their baby. They came back once, and then there was more tear gas, so they went across the country to stay with their relatives. I hope they can clear the CHOP zone without the use of more tear gas. I think that the CHOP zones are a great idea, in fact there should be more of them. Of course they will have to be fenced to preclude the entrance of those horrible police so each city could partition off a section of their area and those who descry the police could go there to live. Think how wonderful it would be. No more Black people being killed by police and without those murderous police the population of the "Zone" would have complete freedom. Truly Heaven on Earth! Of course, there would have to be police, outside the fence, of course, to protect those in "inside" from the "outside Mob", locked gates and all. But that would be rather simple to accomplish. Think of it, a wholly free population, free to do anything that they wanted at any time. Paradise! Well, there's this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freetown_Christiania As I understand, it's not exactly paradise, but not exactly hell. Yes, I have read about that place. But the articles I read seemed to say that crime, largely dope related was, well, rife, with shootings and bomb attacks and so on and my understanding is that Danish law is now enforced in the area, so apparently it wasn't exactly a success story. -- cheers, John B. |
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