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WTF? These are patentable designs?? https://bikerumor.com/2019/11/04/pat...es-for-others/ -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 11:31:54 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
We all pause to slap our foreheads. WTF? These are patentable designs?? https://bikerumor.com/2019/11/04/pat...es-for-others/ -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 I would wonder how you could ever thread a hose/outer cable through that much of a length of bike without an actual inside tube. |
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On 11/7/2019 4:30 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 11:31:54 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote: We all pause to slap our foreheads. WTF? These are patentable designs?? https://bikerumor.com/2019/11/04/pat...es-for-others/ I would wonder how you could ever thread a hose/outer cable through that much of a length of bike without an actual inside tube. Depends on the frame and how much impedimenta is hidden inside. On some, drop in wire or hose, catch it in one's fingers through the big hole in front of the BB. For many, neodymium magnets and a stiff poly wire are the quickest solution. Others need something to pierce the swarf inside like a 1/16" welding rod. Then there are the odd frames now and again which just resist cable/hose installation for no good reason and tick off the mechanic. Typical tool: https://jagwire.com/products/tools/i...l-routing-tool -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 2:44:57 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/7/2019 4:30 PM, Tom Kunich wrote: On Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 11:31:54 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote: We all pause to slap our foreheads. WTF? These are patentable designs?? https://bikerumor.com/2019/11/04/pat...es-for-others/ I would wonder how you could ever thread a hose/outer cable through that much of a length of bike without an actual inside tube. Depends on the frame and how much impedimenta is hidden inside. On some, drop in wire or hose, catch it in one's fingers through the big hole in front of the BB. For many, neodymium magnets and a stiff poly wire are the quickest solution. Others need something to pierce the swarf inside like a 1/16" welding rod. Then there are the odd frames now and again which just resist cable/hose installation for no good reason and tick off the mechanic. Typical tool: https://jagwire.com/products/tools/i...l-routing-tool If you're doing a bare frame, it's a PITA but not horrible. It is horrible if you're trying to snake a Di2 wire or hose or cable through a crowded DT into a little passage under the BB with existing cables/hoses/wires. And let's see what's behind door number one! https://tinyurl.com/yy9xwxwb This is the great time suck with modern bikes -- along with hidden nipples in pre-fab wheels and a few other annoyances. -- Jay Beattie. -- Jay Beattie. |
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On 11/7/2019 5:41 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 2:44:57 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote: On 11/7/2019 4:30 PM, Tom Kunich wrote: On Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 11:31:54 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote: We all pause to slap our foreheads. WTF? These are patentable designs?? https://bikerumor.com/2019/11/04/pat...es-for-others/ I would wonder how you could ever thread a hose/outer cable through that much of a length of bike without an actual inside tube. Depends on the frame and how much impedimenta is hidden inside. On some, drop in wire or hose, catch it in one's fingers through the big hole in front of the BB. For many, neodymium magnets and a stiff poly wire are the quickest solution. Others need something to pierce the swarf inside like a 1/16" welding rod. Then there are the odd frames now and again which just resist cable/hose installation for no good reason and tick off the mechanic. Typical tool: https://jagwire.com/products/tools/i...l-routing-tool If you're doing a bare frame, it's a PITA but not horrible. It is horrible if you're trying to snake a Di2 wire or hose or cable through a crowded DT into a little passage under the BB with existing cables/hoses/wires. And let's see what's behind door number one! https://tinyurl.com/yy9xwxwb This is the great time suck with modern bikes -- along with hidden nipples in pre-fab wheels and a few other annoyances. -- Jay Beattie. -- Jay Beattie. We love Door #1! A finger fits in there. annoyances We miss engineeers. Once they were replaced by 'designers' we were screwed. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 5:22:17 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/7/2019 5:41 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 2:44:57 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote: On 11/7/2019 4:30 PM, Tom Kunich wrote: On Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 11:31:54 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote: We all pause to slap our foreheads. WTF? These are patentable designs?? https://bikerumor.com/2019/11/04/pat...es-for-others/ I would wonder how you could ever thread a hose/outer cable through that much of a length of bike without an actual inside tube. Depends on the frame and how much impedimenta is hidden inside. On some, drop in wire or hose, catch it in one's fingers through the big hole in front of the BB. For many, neodymium magnets and a stiff poly wire are the quickest solution. Others need something to pierce the swarf inside like a 1/16" welding rod. Then there are the odd frames now and again which just resist cable/hose installation for no good reason and tick off the mechanic. Typical tool: https://jagwire.com/products/tools/i...l-routing-tool If you're doing a bare frame, it's a PITA but not horrible. It is horrible if you're trying to snake a Di2 wire or hose or cable through a crowded DT into a little passage under the BB with existing cables/hoses/wires. And let's see what's behind door number one! https://tinyurl.com/yy9xwxwb This is the great time suck with modern bikes -- along with hidden nipples in pre-fab wheels and a few other annoyances. -- Jay Beattie. -- Jay Beattie. We love Door #1! A finger fits in there. annoyances We miss engineeers. Once they were replaced by 'designers' we were screwed. What is actually behind door number one is a cramped raceway under the BB insert with, if you can see through it, a small hole into the DT where you catch incoming cables, hoses, wires, etc. Its a nice door, but on my old Roubaix, for example, it covers a cramped warren of wires and hoses. -- Jay Beattie |
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On Friday, November 8, 2019 at 12:41:37 AM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 2:44:57 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote: On 11/7/2019 4:30 PM, Tom Kunich wrote: On Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 11:31:54 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote: We all pause to slap our foreheads. WTF? These are patentable designs?? https://bikerumor.com/2019/11/04/pat...es-for-others/ I would wonder how you could ever thread a hose/outer cable through that much of a length of bike without an actual inside tube. Depends on the frame and how much impedimenta is hidden inside. On some, drop in wire or hose, catch it in one's fingers through the big hole in front of the BB. For many, neodymium magnets and a stiff poly wire are the quickest solution. Others need something to pierce the swarf inside like a 1/16" welding rod. Then there are the odd frames now and again which just resist cable/hose installation for no good reason and tick off the mechanic. Typical tool: https://jagwire.com/products/tools/i...l-routing-tool If you're doing a bare frame, it's a PITA but not horrible. It is horrible if you're trying to snake a Di2 wire or hose or cable through a crowded DT into a little passage under the BB with existing cables/hoses/wires. And let's see what's behind door number one! https://tinyurl.com/yy9xwxwb This is the great time suck with modern bikes -- along with hidden nipples in pre-fab wheels and a few other annoyances. -- Jay Beattie. -- Jay Beattie. Last week I replaced for the first time the inner cables of the front and rear derailleur of my internal routed Canyon frame. It was very easy. The frame has a big removable plastic cap on the bottom of the bottom bracket shell with the cable guides integrated. I removed the cranks and put a liner (a piece of the smallest shrink tube) from the RD side over the old cable to the BB shell in the horizontal chainstay. After that it is a piece of cake.. Lou |
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On Friday, November 8, 2019 at 1:18:13 AM UTC-8, wrote:
On Friday, November 8, 2019 at 12:41:37 AM UTC+1, jbeattie wrote: On Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 2:44:57 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote: On 11/7/2019 4:30 PM, Tom Kunich wrote: On Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 11:31:54 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote: We all pause to slap our foreheads. WTF? These are patentable designs?? https://bikerumor.com/2019/11/04/pat...es-for-others/ I would wonder how you could ever thread a hose/outer cable through that much of a length of bike without an actual inside tube. Depends on the frame and how much impedimenta is hidden inside. On some, drop in wire or hose, catch it in one's fingers through the big hole in front of the BB. For many, neodymium magnets and a stiff poly wire are the quickest solution. Others need something to pierce the swarf inside like a 1/16" welding rod. Then there are the odd frames now and again which just resist cable/hose installation for no good reason and tick off the mechanic. Typical tool: https://jagwire.com/products/tools/i...l-routing-tool If you're doing a bare frame, it's a PITA but not horrible. It is horrible if you're trying to snake a Di2 wire or hose or cable through a crowded DT into a little passage under the BB with existing cables/hoses/wires. And let's see what's behind door number one! https://tinyurl.com/yy9xwxwb This is the great time suck with modern bikes -- along with hidden nipples in pre-fab wheels and a few other annoyances. -- Jay Beattie. -- Jay Beattie. Last week I replaced for the first time the inner cables of the front and rear derailleur of my internal routed Canyon frame. It was very easy. The frame has a big removable plastic cap on the bottom of the bottom bracket shell with the cable guides integrated. I removed the cranks and put a liner (a piece of the smallest shrink tube) from the RD side over the old cable to the BB shell in the horizontal chainstay. After that it is a piece of cake. Lou Changing a cable isn't terrible. On my Norco, for example, the RD cable is all in housing. Installing the housing is a PITA getting it through the chain stay, but once in, cable replacement is easy. The FD cable is in housing from the lever to the DT, but then it stops and runs bare through the frame. My technique for running the FD cable is to pull the old cable just a bit out of the lever, cut off the button, pull off the outer housing and then I cut off a cable end cap so it has a hole in both ends, put the new cable through the lever, through the housing and crimp it to old cable with the cable cap and then just pull it through the frame. The openings are big enough to accommodate the cable cap, and then I just clip it off since there is so much excess cable anyway. I suppose I could use shrink wrap to join the cable for the pull, but I've never tried that. Running a new hydraulic hose or cable housing can be a pain depending on the frame and circumstances. My worst experience was running a new hose through a Roubaix when I couldn't use the old hose to pull because the meth-heads who stole the bike (the police brought it back) had cut the rear tube and shoved the end in the stay. -- Jay Beattie -- Jay Beattie. |
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On 8/11/19 6:31 am, AMuzi wrote:
We all pause to slap our foreheads. WTF? These are patentable designs?? https://bikerumor.com/2019/11/04/pat...es-for-others/ Oh how I long for all electric wireless brakes and gears. -- JS |
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On Thursday, November 7, 2019 at 11:51:27 PM UTC, James wrote:
On 8/11/19 6:31 am, AMuzi wrote: We all pause to slap our foreheads. WTF? These are patentable designs?? https://bikerumor.com/2019/11/04/pat...es-for-others/ Oh how I long for all electric wireless brakes and gears. -- JS Preferably radio controlled. The wiring on my Trek Smover with electronic gear changing and suspension was a pain to turn into a neat installation. Eventually I took a piece of spiral cable tidy from my study to my bike and solved the problem by folding up the surplus wire in the spiral tidy, painted bike colour. Radio control would solve all these problems, though it may of course bring others with it. Andre Jute I'm not obsessive, but tidiness costs nothing and avoids confusion |
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