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Old April 21st 08, 03:43 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
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http://www.fox23news.com/news/local/...9-5b179912cd46

Bicyclist rescued from mountain trail in Saratoga County
Reported by: Walt McClure
Email:
Videographer: Z. Radick
Last Update: 4/20 10:34 pm

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A State Police helicopter had to be brought in Sunday to help rescue a
bicyclist from a mountain trail in Moreau. A rescue effort in Saratoga
County on Sunday after a biker was injured while riding a trail.

It began around 1:30, when two bicyclists were riding in the Town of
Moreau in Moreau State Park when one of them fell off their bike and
broke an ankle.



They called 911 and paramedics arrived, tackling tough terrain to get
to the injured person.



That terrain forced them to call in a State Police helicopter to bring
the biker off the mountain and to the hospital.
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Old April 21st 08, 06:56 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
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And your point...are you reveling in someones injury? do you like when
people get hurt?

Let's look at this best line from the email.
It began around 1:30, when two bicyclists were riding in the Town of
Moreau in Moreau State Park when one of them fell off their bike and
broke an ankle.


Oh...interesting. THEY WERE RIDING IN THE TOWN OF...IN THE STATE
PARK...ok. Where I live. there are game roads and regular roads
throughout the park that still on regular and game roads tackle tough
terrain and would require some heavy effort...So are you ASSUMING they
were in the woods? are you spouting off as usual at the mouth with
your own judge and jury facts? What if it were a hiker that had fallen
on a backroad injuring their ankle...would that be postable material
too? You wouldn't understand since you techno-love your computer and
never leave it's side to enjoy the real outdoors or hiking.
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Old April 22nd 08, 05:22 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman
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On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:56:48 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

And your point...are you reveling in someones injury? do you like when
people get hurt?

Let's look at this best line from the email.
It began around 1:30, when two bicyclists were riding in the Town of
Moreau in Moreau State Park when one of them fell off their bike and
broke an ankle.


Oh...interesting. THEY WERE RIDING IN THE TOWN OF...IN THE STATE
PARK...ok. Where I live. there are game roads and regular roads
throughout the park that still on regular and game roads tackle tough
terrain and would require some heavy effort...So are you ASSUMING they
were in the woods? are you spouting off as usual at the mouth with
your own judge and jury facts? What if it were a hiker that had fallen
on a backroad injuring their ankle...would that be postable material
too? You wouldn't understand since you techno-love your computer and
never leave it's side to enjoy the real outdoors or hiking.


That's right. I never go outdoors. Moron.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
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Old April 22nd 08, 09:01 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
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..

That's right. I never go outdoors. Moron.
--



Actually I believe that statement...DUH. I notice you only respond to
one section of my post because the rest is factual. You jump to
conclusions and wish harm on MTBers, you are a scandulous lying thieve
indeed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And your point...are you reveling in someones injury? do you like
when
people get hurt?

Let's look at this best line from the email.
It began around 1:30, when two bicyclists were riding in the Town of
Moreau in Moreau State Park when one of them fell off their bike and
broke an ankle.


Oh...interesting. THEY WERE RIDING IN THE TOWN OF...IN THE STATE
PARK...ok. Where I live. there are game roads and regular roads
throughout the park that still on regular and game roads tackle tough
terrain and would require some heavy effort...So are you ASSUMING
they
were in the woods? are you spouting off as usual at the mouth with
your own judge and jury facts? What if it were a hiker that had
fallen
on a backroad injuring their ankle...would that be postable material
too? You wouldn't understand since you techno-love your computer and
never leave it's side to enjoy the real outdoors or hiking.


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Old May 1st 08, 07:31 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Siskuwihane[_2_]
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On Apr 22, 12:22*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:56:48 -0700 (PDT), "





wrote:
And your point...are you reveling in someones injury? do you like when
people get hurt?


Let's look at this best line from the email.
It began around 1:30, when two bicyclists were riding in the Town of
Moreau in Moreau State Park when one of them fell off their bike and
broke an ankle.


Oh...interesting. THEY WERE RIDING IN THE TOWN OF...IN THE STATE
PARK...ok. Where I live. there are game roads and regular roads
throughout the park that still on regular and game roads tackle tough
terrain and would require some heavy effort...So are you ASSUMING they
were in the woods? are you spouting off as usual at the mouth with
your own judge and jury facts? What if it were a hiker that had fallen
on a backroad injuring their ankle...would that be postable material
too? You wouldn't understand since you techno-love your computer and
never leave it's side to enjoy the real outdoors or hiking.


That's right. I never go outdoors.


Finally, Michael J. Vandeman posts something truthful.
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Old May 1st 08, 07:37 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Jeff Strickland
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"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
...

That's right. I never go outdoors. Moron.


Is that because you are in solitary confinement, or does the warden have the
entire joing on lock down?




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Old May 2nd 08, 06:06 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman
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On Thu, 1 May 2008 11:31:08 -0700 (PDT), Siskuwihane
wrote:

On Apr 22, 12:22*am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:56:48 -0700 (PDT), "





wrote:
And your point...are you reveling in someones injury? do you like when
people get hurt?


Let's look at this best line from the email.
It began around 1:30, when two bicyclists were riding in the Town of
Moreau in Moreau State Park when one of them fell off their bike and
broke an ankle.


Oh...interesting. THEY WERE RIDING IN THE TOWN OF...IN THE STATE
PARK...ok. Where I live. there are game roads and regular roads
throughout the park that still on regular and game roads tackle tough
terrain and would require some heavy effort...So are you ASSUMING they
were in the woods? are you spouting off as usual at the mouth with
your own judge and jury facts? What if it were a hiker that had fallen
on a backroad injuring their ankle...would that be postable material
too? You wouldn't understand since you techno-love your computer and
never leave it's side to enjoy the real outdoors or hiking.


That's right. I never go outdoors.


Finally, Michael J. Vandeman posts something truthful.


Sucker.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
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Old May 3rd 08, 03:02 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
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Mike...you are such a sociopath...I encourage others to fully read the
description below. Mike matches every category of the sociopathic
personality. It is a bit unnerving...Well worth the time to read.

Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving
behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly
hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument
to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.


Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."


Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for
them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught
up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities.
Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.


Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their
core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets
and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and
accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means
and they let nothing stand in their way.


Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is
more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged
by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would
upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their
promises.

Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only
contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage
of them.


Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and
approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as
creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful,
all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries,
no concern for their impact on others.


Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet
"gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends;
aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing,
etc.


Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or
indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame
themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously
committed.


Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all
sorts involving acts with dead animals at times.


Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the
future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.


Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story
readily.

Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
Authoritarian
Secretive
Paranoid
Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where
their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
Conventional appearance
Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life
Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs
their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
Incapable of real human attachment to another
Unable to feel remorse or guilt
Extreme narcissism and grandiose
May state readily that their goal is to rule the world

(The above traits are based on the psychopathy checklists of H.
Cleckley and R. Hare.)


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Old May 3rd 08, 04:58 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman
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On Fri, 2 May 2008 19:02:33 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

Mike...you are such a sociopath...I encourage others to fully read the
description below. Mike matches every category of the sociopathic
personality. It is a bit unnerving...Well worth the time to read.

Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving
behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly
hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument
to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.


Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as "their right."


Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for
them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught
up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities.
Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.


Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their
core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets
and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and
accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means
and they let nothing stand in their way.


Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is
more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged
by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would
upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their
promises.

Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only
contempt for others' feelings of distress and readily taking advantage
of them.


Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and
approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as
creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful,
all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries,
no concern for their impact on others.


Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet
"gets by" by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends;
aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing,
etc.


Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams. Oblivious or
indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame
themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously
committed.


Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all
sorts involving acts with dead animals at times.


Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the
future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.


Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story
readily.

Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
Authoritarian
Secretive
Paranoid
Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where
their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
Conventional appearance
Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life
Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs
their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
Incapable of real human attachment to another
Unable to feel remorse or guilt
Extreme narcissism and grandiose
May state readily that their goal is to rule the world

(The above traits are based on the psychopathy checklists of H.
Cleckley and R. Hare.)


Look up "Projection". Then look in the mirror.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
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Old May 3rd 08, 01:59 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
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Your response is very typical of sociopathic behavior...

Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them. Does not accept
blame
themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously
committed.


More info.
Antisocial personality disorder is characterized by a lack of regard
for the moral or legal standards in the local culture. There is a
marked inability to get along with others or abide by societal rules.
Individuals with this disorder are sometimes called psychopaths or
sociopaths.

Psychopaths have only a shallow range of emotions and lack guilt, says
Hare. They often see themselves as victims, and lack remorse or the
ability to empathize with others. "Psychopaths play on the fact that
most of us are trusting and forgiving people,

Where we might occasionally tell a white lie, a psychopath's lying is
compulsive. Most of us experience some degree of guilt about lying,
preventing us from exhibiting such behavior on a regular basis.
"Psychopaths don't discriminate who it is they lie to or cheat," says
Seto. "There's no distinction between friend, family and sucker."
 




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