Crud Mud Guards: Less than half price...

Mr Crud Rear Fixing Mud Guards:

RRP: £14.99.

15 available at only £5.99.

The last lot at this price. Buy now to avoid dissapointment.

Copy/Paste:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tem=3625933608

Will ship to the UK only.

Cheers.


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What an A-hole!!


Use rec.bicycles.marketplace
for selling bikes and bike parts. This newsgroup is about Racing of Bikes,
teams, strategy, races, and is *not your personal "For Sale" platform*
Thanks!

rec.bicycles.marketplace: Bicycles, components, ancillary equipment and
services wanted or for sale, reviews of such things, places to buy
them, and evaluations of these sources. Not for discussion of general
engineering, maintenance, or repair -- see rec.bicycles.tech

rec.bicycles.racing: Race results, racing techniques, rules, and
organizations. Not Wanted To Buy (WTB) Nor racing equipment --
see rec.bicycles.marketplace or rec.bicycles.tech

Advertising on Usenet is a frequently misunderstood subject. The purpose
of this message is to explain some Usenet conventions regarding advertising
to new users and, hopefully, spare everyone involved a lot of needless
worry.

To start with, let's define the term. "Usenet" is *not* synonymous with
"Internet." Usenet is the system of online discussion groups, called
"newsgroups," e.g. rec.humor, comp.misc, news.announce.newusers,
talk.origins, misc.rural, alt.sex, and so forth. This FAQ does not
attempt to describe in detail all the various ways in which one can
conduct commercial activity over the Internet and attempts simply to
explain the issues involved in advertising in Usenet newsgroups.

The philosophy of Usenet
------------------------
Usenet started out in 1980 as a UNIX network linking sites which needed to
talk about and receive prompt updates on UNIX system configuration and
other UNIX questions. Message traffic started out at a few messages/year...
In the beginning, Usenet was largely confined to educational institutions
such as universities and colleges, and to research companies and other
commercial enterprises with UNIX machines on-site. It has now grown to
include millions of users at commercial sites such as America Online...

That these customs and traditions began when Usenet was much smaller and
quite different in nature in no way lessens the anger many users feel when
these customs and traditions are violated. One such custom is the tradition
and belief that it is rude to advertise for profit in Usenet newsgroups.

Advertising is widely seen as an 'off-topic' intrusion into the
discussions of any particular newsgroup (newsgroup is the Usenet word for
discussion group or bulletin board). Each newsgroup has a specific set of
subjects it is intended to cover, and in order for newsgroups to function
as effective discussion forums, it is important that people stay
'on-topic'. If everyone - even a meager 10% of newsgroup posters -
disregarded the particular topics each newsgroup is intended to cover
and simply posted whatever they wanted wherever they want, the entire
system would break down into chaos and meaninglessness.

Due to the decentralized nature of Usenet, there is no one person or body
which can "enforce" the custom of staying on-topic. It falls on each
user to help preserve the culture of open discussion and free speech that
Usenet has come to embody by not posting off-topic material.

This, of course, includes advertising. Advertising is by far the most
pervasive form of off-topic posting, and therefore, gets most of the heat.

An analogy
----------
If an analogy will help you to visualize the situation, imagine a meeting
at your workplace or school.

At this meeting, people are discussing a certain issue -- for example,
getting new sidewalks installed downtown or getting new schoolbooks for
the elementary school, or what to do about the new product your company is
planning on introducing.

In the midst of the discussions on the new sidewalks or textbooks or
product, someone walks into the room, interrupts everyone, then reads an
advertisement for a local restaurant. He or she then leaves without
waiting for comment.

Now imagine if this happened over and over again each time your group
tried to hold a meeting. Every time someone tried to make a point, in
walks some other stranger who reads an ad for some business that has
nothing to do with the subject of the meeting.

It would soon become rather difficult to hold effective meetings, wouldn't
it?

Similarly, it's very difficult to keep Usenet newsgroups interesting and
useful when people deluge newsgroups with advertisements.

How to advertise on Usenet
--------------------------
*.forsale and *.marketplace newsgroups

There are many newsgroups directly involved in selling. You can generally
spot them by the word "forsale" or "marketplace" in their names.

For example, rec.games.board.marketplace is a newsgroup where people post
for-sale and want-to-buy notices about board games they want to buy or
sell.

Similarly, the misc.forsale.* hierarchy is full of newsgroups for buying
and selling various computers, monitors, printers, devices, and so forth,
as well as misc.forsale.non-computer.*, for selling stuff.

You can access the FAQ and archives via the Web using these URLs:

http://draco.acs.uci.edu/rbfaq/
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypert...s-faq/top.html

"Soul-A-HOLE-Searcher" wrote in message
...
Mr Crud Rear Fixing Mud Guards:

RRP: £1444.99.

15 available at only £445.99.

The last lot at this price. Buy now to avoid dissapointment.

Copy/Paste:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...Item&item=KRAP
Will ship to the UK only.

Cheers.


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Get a life!

"Ken Papai" wrote in message
news:iWK6b.385837$uu5.72254@sccrnsc04...
What an A-hole!!


Use rec.bicycles.marketplace
for selling bikes and bike parts. This newsgroup is about Racing of Bikes,
teams, strategy, races, and is *not your personal "For Sale" platform*
Thanks!

rec.bicycles.marketplace: Bicycles, components, ancillary equipment and
services wanted or for sale, reviews of such things, places to buy
them, and evaluations of these sources. Not for discussion of general
engineering, maintenance, or repair -- see rec.bicycles.tech

rec.bicycles.racing: Race results, racing techniques, rules, and
organizations. Not Wanted To Buy (WTB) Nor racing equipment --
see rec.bicycles.marketplace or rec.bicycles.tech

Advertising on Usenet is a frequently misunderstood subject. The purpose
of this message is to explain some Usenet conventions regarding
advertising
to new users and, hopefully, spare everyone involved a lot of needless
worry.

To start with, let's define the term. "Usenet" is *not* synonymous with
"Internet." Usenet is the system of online discussion groups, called
"newsgroups," e.g. rec.humor, comp.misc, news.announce.newusers,
talk.origins, misc.rural, alt.sex, and so forth. This FAQ does not
attempt to describe in detail all the various ways in which one can
conduct commercial activity over the Internet and attempts simply to
explain the issues involved in advertising in Usenet newsgroups.

The philosophy of Usenet
------------------------
Usenet started out in 1980 as a UNIX network linking sites which needed to
talk about and receive prompt updates on UNIX system configuration and
other UNIX questions. Message traffic started out at a few
messages/year...
In the beginning, Usenet was largely confined to educational institutions
such as universities and colleges, and to research companies and other
commercial enterprises with UNIX machines on-site. It has now grown to
include millions of users at commercial sites such as America Online...

That these customs and traditions began when Usenet was much smaller and
quite different in nature in no way lessens the anger many users feel when
these customs and traditions are violated. One such custom is the
tradition
and belief that it is rude to advertise for profit in Usenet newsgroups.

Advertising is widely seen as an 'off-topic' intrusion into the
discussions of any particular newsgroup (newsgroup is the Usenet word for
discussion group or bulletin board). Each newsgroup has a specific set of
subjects it is intended to cover, and in order for newsgroups to function
as effective discussion forums, it is important that people stay
'on-topic'. If everyone - even a meager 10% of newsgroup posters -
disregarded the particular topics each newsgroup is intended to cover
and simply posted whatever they wanted wherever they want, the entire
system would break down into chaos and meaninglessness.

Due to the decentralized nature of Usenet, there is no one person or body
which can "enforce" the custom of staying on-topic. It falls on each
user to help preserve the culture of open discussion and free speech that
Usenet has come to embody by not posting off-topic material.

This, of course, includes advertising. Advertising is by far the most
pervasive form of off-topic posting, and therefore, gets most of the heat.

An analogy
----------
If an analogy will help you to visualize the situation, imagine a meeting
at your workplace or school.

At this meeting, people are discussing a certain issue -- for example,
getting new sidewalks installed downtown or getting new schoolbooks for
the elementary school, or what to do about the new product your company is
planning on introducing.

In the midst of the discussions on the new sidewalks or textbooks or
product, someone walks into the room, interrupts everyone, then reads an
advertisement for a local restaurant. He or she then leaves without
waiting for comment.

Now imagine if this happened over and over again each time your group
tried to hold a meeting. Every time someone tried to make a point, in
walks some other stranger who reads an ad for some business that has
nothing to do with the subject of the meeting.

It would soon become rather difficult to hold effective meetings, wouldn't
it?

Similarly, it's very difficult to keep Usenet newsgroups interesting and
useful when people deluge newsgroups with advertisements.

How to advertise on Usenet
--------------------------
*.forsale and *.marketplace newsgroups

There are many newsgroups directly involved in selling. You can generally
spot them by the word "forsale" or "marketplace" in their names.

For example, rec.games.board.marketplace is a newsgroup where people post
for-sale and want-to-buy notices about board games they want to buy or
sell.

Similarly, the misc.forsale.* hierarchy is full of newsgroups for buying
and selling various computers, monitors, printers, devices, and so forth,
as well as misc.forsale.non-computer.*, for selling stuff.

You can access the FAQ and archives via the Web using these URLs:

http://draco.acs.uci.edu/rbfaq/
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypert...s-faq/top.html

"Soul-A-HOLE-Searcher" wrote in message
...
Mr Crud Rear Fixing Mud Guards:

RRP: £1444.99.

15 available at only £445.99.

The last lot at this price. Buy now to avoid dissapointment.

Copy/Paste:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...Item&item=KRAP
Will ship to the UK only.

Cheers.


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