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Mountain Bikers Aren't Interested in Restoring (Removing) Their Illegal Trails



 
 
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Old March 9th 08, 02:26 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman
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Default Mountain Bikers Aren't Interested in Restoring (Removing) Their Illegal Trails

On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 04:22:40 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
wrote:


"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
.. .

Try to stick to the subject. No one is talking about YOU. We are
talking about DEADBEAT, IRRESPONSIBLE MOUNTAIN BIKERS. Go back to
sleep.
--


Try and keep up yourself.

You are standing in a glass house throwing stones. You are complaining about
people not doing the same thing you will not do, and you are complaining to
a guy that does what you will not do.

Idiot.


BS. I don't create illegal trails. Mountain bikers do. Try to stick to
the subject.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
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Old March 9th 08, 06:19 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Jeff Strickland
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Default Mountain Bikers Aren't Interested in Restoring (Removing) Their Illegal Trails


"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
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BS. I don't create illegal trails. Mountain bikers do. Try to stick to
the subject.



You don't clean up the legal trails either.

Idiot.


  #13  
Old March 10th 08, 03:19 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman
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Default Mountain Bikers Aren't Interested in Restoring (Removing) Their Illegal Trails

On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:19:39 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
wrote:


"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
.. .
BS. I don't create illegal trails. Mountain bikers do. Try to stick to
the subject.



You don't clean up the legal trails either.


Your idiocy knows no bounds. By definition, there is nothng about
legal trails needing to be "cleaned up". Illegal trails need to be
removed.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
  #14  
Old March 10th 08, 01:43 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Romain
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Default Mountain Bikers Aren't Interested in Restoring (Removing) TheirIllegal Trails

Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:19:39 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
wrote:

"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
...
BS. I don't create illegal trails. Mountain bikers do. Try to stick to
the subject.


You don't clean up the legal trails either.


Your idiocy knows no bounds. By definition, there is nothng about
legal trails needing to be "cleaned up". Illegal trails need to be
removed.


You sir obviously have 'never' been on a trail, legal or otherwise to
think that 'legal' trails don't need clean ups! I guess trails are a
long way away from your cafeteria job eh.

We worked with the local township and the property owners on a three
weekend clean up in a local bush area half crown land and half private.

'We' didn't discriminate, we cleaned the legal parts and any 'illegal'
parts of the bush area with a crew of off-roaders in Jeeps and Land
Rovers. We had 20 Jeeps in my group alone from a Usenet newsgroup,
rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, for three Saturdays dragging garbage and
old vehicles out of the bush so the city workers could take them away.

We pulled 3 metric tons of pure garbage, two dumptrucks full of scrap
steel, two truck loads of used tires and about 30 vehicle hulks out of
this area.

The local press was there as well as the writer for the Land Rover
Magazine who did an article on it.

Maybe you should get off the keyboard and actually go see some trails so
you can have an 'educated' opinion of them Mike. All you do is post
other peoples opinions with nothing first hand.

Mike
(not a biker, but a Jeeper)
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Old March 11th 08, 01:44 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Jeff Strickland
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Default Mountain Bikers Aren't Interested in Restoring (Removing) Their Illegal Trails


"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
news

Your idiocy knows no bounds. By definition, there is nothng about
legal trails needing to be "cleaned up". Illegal trails need to be
removed.



Legal trails take far more cleaning and maintenance than ANY illegal trail
will ever get.

Trail maintenance is done all of the time. The Forest Service and the Park
Service are always looking for volunteers to do trail maintenance. You seem
to be completely ignorant of the fact that forests and parks have
Adopt-A-Trail Programs that work much the same as the Adopt-A-Highway
program that the highway departments have. Groups come in and volunteer time
and material to keep routes in the national forests and parks open. They
shore up the low side of the trail to remedy or prevent erosion, they haul
out fallen trees, repair irrigation systems, whatever the ranger needs to
have done, volunteers come together to make it happen.

You really need to get out more.

Idiot.





  #16  
Old March 11th 08, 03:55 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman
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Default Mountain Bikers Aren't Interested in Restoring (Removing) Their Illegal Trails

On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:43:08 -0400, Mike Romain
wrote:

Mike Vandeman wrote:
On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:19:39 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
wrote:

"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
...
BS. I don't create illegal trails. Mountain bikers do. Try to stick to
the subject.

You don't clean up the legal trails either.


Your idiocy knows no bounds. By definition, there is nothng about
legal trails needing to be "cleaned up". Illegal trails need to be
removed.


You sir obviously have 'never' been on a trail, legal or otherwise to
think that 'legal' trails don't need clean ups! I guess trails are a
long way away from your cafeteria job eh.

We worked with the local township and the property owners on a three
weekend clean up in a local bush area half crown land and half private.

'We' didn't discriminate, we cleaned the legal parts and any 'illegal'
parts of the bush area with a crew of off-roaders in Jeeps and Land
Rovers. We had 20 Jeeps in my group alone from a Usenet newsgroup,
rec.autos.makers.jeep+willys, for three Saturdays dragging garbage and
old vehicles out of the bush so the city workers could take them away.

We pulled 3 metric tons of pure garbage, two dumptrucks full of scrap
steel, two truck loads of used tires and about 30 vehicle hulks out of
this area.

The local press was there as well as the writer for the Land Rover
Magazine who did an article on it.

Maybe you should get off the keyboard and actually go see some trails so
you can have an 'educated' opinion of them Mike. All you do is post
other peoples opinions with nothing first hand.

Mike
(not a biker, but a Jeeper)


I know it's hard, but try to stick to the subject: restoration of
illegal trails to habitat.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
 




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