|
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
#1
|
|||
|
|||
Thank goodness for that.
"Proposed alterations to the highway code to give cyclists the right to make
a left turn at red traffic lights will probably not happen, Roads Minister Mike Penning told MPs. Mr Penning also talked about the public perception of bikes as a dangerous mode of transport and said this makes people reluctant to cycle. He said that the UK is safer than two countries where cycling is popular, Sweden and the Netherlands, with fewer cyclist fatalities per 100,000 people. Transport Minister Norman Baker said as cycling becomes more popular, there should be fewer accidents since motorists are often more careful of cyclists in groups than individually. " I suspect that the number of cyclists is higher in the Netherlands at least, so it is rather likely that the death rate per 100,000 of population would be higher, a more relevant figure would be the numbers of cyclists out of 100,000 that get topped in each country. Please can someone tell him that there is NOT any safety in numbers. http://www.rac.co.uk/news-advice/mot...ight-go-ahead/ |
Ads |
#2
|
|||
|
|||
Thank goodness for that.
On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 14:44:42 +0100, "Mrcheerful"
wrote: He said that the UK is safer than two countries where cycling is popular, Sweden and the Netherlands, with fewer cyclist fatalities per 100,000 people. What a peculiar statistic to trundle out for cyclists' safety. The flaw is almost as huge as Medwit's decking. |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
Thank goodness for that.
On Apr 26, 2:44*pm, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
"Proposed alterations to the highway code to give cyclists the right to make a left turn at red traffic lights will probably not happen, Roads Minister Mike Penning told MPs. Why "Thank goodness for that"? If the law is changed it would be legal, and thus to be expected. |
#4
|
|||
|
|||
Thank goodness for that.
On 26/04/2012 15:45, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 14:44:42 +0100, "Mrcheerful" wrote: He said that the UK is safer than two countries where cycling is popular, Sweden and the Netherlands, with fewer cyclist fatalities per 100,000 people. What a peculiar statistic to trundle out for cyclists' safety. The flaw is almost as huge as Medwit's decking. Do people in Sweden & The Netherlands cycle upside down then? -- Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton - Lancaster University |
#5
|
|||
|
|||
Thank goodness for that.
On 26/04/2012 17:10, Squashme wrote:
On Apr 26, 2:44 pm, wrote: "Proposed alterations to the highway code to give cyclists the right to make a left turn at red traffic lights will probably not happen, Roads Minister Mike Penning told MPs. Why "Thank goodness for that"? If the law is changed it would be legal, and thus to be expected. Why not just give everyone the right to turn left (but not go straight ahead or right) at red traffic lights, subject to a requirement to give way to pedestrians crossing the road into which the driver/rider is turning? It works well in the USA. |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
Thank goodness for that.
On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:24:14 +0100, JNugent
wrote: On 26/04/2012 17:10, Squashme wrote: On Apr 26, 2:44 pm, wrote: "Proposed alterations to the highway code to give cyclists the right to make a left turn at red traffic lights will probably not happen, Roads Minister Mike Penning told MPs. Why "Thank goodness for that"? If the law is changed it would be legal, and thus to be expected. Why not just give everyone the right to turn left (but not go straight ahead or right) at red traffic lights, subject to a requirement to give way to pedestrians crossing the road into which the driver/rider is turning? It works well in the USA. Nonsense. In the US they are allowed to turn *right* at red traffic signals. |
#7
|
|||
|
|||
Thank goodness for that.
On 26/04/2012 19:51, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:24:14 +0100, wrote: On 26/04/2012 17:10, Squashme wrote: On Apr 26, 2:44 pm, wrote: "Proposed alterations to the highway code to give cyclists the right to make a left turn at red traffic lights will probably not happen, Roads Minister Mike Penning told MPs. Why "Thank goodness for that"? If the law is changed it would be legal, and thus to be expected. Why not just give everyone the right to turn left (but not go straight ahead or right) at red traffic lights, subject to a requirement to give way to pedestrians crossing the road into which the driver/rider is turning? It works well in the USA. Nonsense. In the US they are allowed to turn *right* at red traffic signals. I was wondering how long it would take for someone to try to crack that one again. |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
UK cycling not safer than NL
"Bertie Wooster" wrote in message ... On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 14:44:42 +0100, "Mrcheerful" wrote: He said that the UK is safer than two countries where cycling is popular, Sweden and the Netherlands, with fewer cyclist fatalities per 100,000 people. What a peculiar statistic to trundle out for cyclists' safety. The flaw is almost as huge as Medwit's decking. He was already caned for that yesterday in one of my posts. http://road.cc/content/news/57138-ro...erlands-videos -- Simon Mason |
#9
|
|||
|
|||
Thank goodness for that.
"Proposed alterations to the highway code to give cyclists the right to make
a left turn at red traffic lights will probably not happen, Roads Minister Mike Penning told MPs. Why "Thank goodness for that"? If the law is changed it would be legal, and thus to be expected. Why not just give everyone the right to turn left (but not go straight ahead or right) at red traffic lights, subject to a requirement to give way to pedestrians crossing the road into which the driver/rider is turning? It works well in the USA. A cyclist turning along side a motor vehicle can easily stay inside of the vehicle's turn. On the down side motorists often don't want to stop for pedestrians who have the right of way. Bret Cahill |
#10
|
|||
|
|||
Thank goodness for that.
On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:47:03 -0700, Bret Cahill wrote:
"Proposed alterations to the highway code to give cyclists the right to make a left turn at red traffic lights will probably not happen, Roads Minister Mike Penning told MPs. Why "Thank goodness for that"? If the law is changed it would be legal, and thus to be expected. Why not just give everyone the right to turn left (but not go straight ahead or right) at red traffic lights, subject to a requirement to give way to pedestrians crossing the road into which the driver/rider is turning? It works well in the USA. A cyclist turning along side a motor vehicle can easily stay inside of the vehicle's turn. Sometimes not easily. Sometimes only by jumping up on the footpath or onto the side of the road. And sometimes not at all ...... -- Life is a venereal disease with 100% mortality. |
|
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Thank goodness it had a serial # | DirtRoadie | Racing | 11 | February 20th 09 03:54 PM |
A journey by car. Thank goodness I have a bike -- a bit OT | Trevor A Panther[_2_] | UK | 8 | November 12th 08 07:43 PM |
Goodness Me | Nuxx Bar | UK | 10 | April 12th 08 02:31 PM |
RR: Bergen Peak Goodness | Ride-A-Lot | Mountain Biking | 8 | June 9th 07 09:06 PM |
More Google Maps Mashupy Goodness... | Jules | Australia | 120 | June 9th 06 12:52 AM |