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Unbelivable - no 28" rim tape
As my front open pro based wheel was built I have just discovered that
none of the local shops has 28" rim tape! Aside from the rubbery hideosity that one shop had. At least the clerk was straightforward telling me it won't work with high pressure road tubes. Makes me wonder how much people pump into touring tires. Anyhow, the 26" rim tape i looked at out of curiosity is a continuous circle of plastic with no sign of adhesive on the rim side. Since I got used to the adhesive type of the rim tape and i assume the local shops would sell the same plastiky packing straps like contraption when they get it in 28" variety i've got to ask what should I expect from it? as good as the rim tape with adhesive or not? tnx |
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Unbelivable - no 28" rim tape
Anton Success wrote:
Anyhow, the 26" rim tape i looked at out of curiosity is a continuous circle of plastic with no sign of adhesive on the rim side. Since I got used to the adhesive type of the rim tape and i assume the local shops would sell the same plastiky packing straps like contraption when they get it in 28" variety i've got to ask what should I expect from it? as good as the rim tape with adhesive or not? There are three basic types of rim strips. One is just a big rubber band, suitable for use only with single- walled rims. No adhesive is necessary, nor desirable to do the intended job. They are easily damaged at the valve hole where their margins can be quite narrow. . The second kind is a turn of adhesive tape made of strong fabric. This works for double-walled rims. It comes off a roll and need not be joined into a continuous loop. It's a hassle to peel off when a spoke nipple must be replaced. The third kind, which is becoming more common all the time, is a loop of stiff fabric or hard plastic with no adhesive. It snaps on like a rubber rim band, but it's strong and stiff enough to withstand high pressures and the sharp edges of double-walled rims. It has the advantage of being easily removable and replaceable, but it must be relatively well matched to the width of the rim. All three kinds of rim strips work well within their own contexts, and they all need periodic inspection for damage, misalignment, or deterioration. Velocity offers rim plugs to cover each spoke drilling of a double- walled rim individually. These are effective, but they are a real nuisance to install. Chalo |
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Unbelivable - no 28" rim tape
On Jan 25, 1:25*am, Anton Success wrote:
As my front open pro based wheel was built I have just discovered that none of the local shops has 28" rim tape! Aside from the rubbery hideosity that one shop had. At least the clerk was straightforward telling me it won't work with high pressure road tubes. Makes me wonder how much people pump into touring tires. Anyhow, the 26" rim tape i looked at out of curiosity is a continuous circle of plastic with no sign of adhesive on the rim side. Since I got used to the adhesive type of the rim tape and i assume the local shops would sell the same plastiky packing straps like contraption when they get it in 28" variety i've got to ask what should I expect from it? as good as the rim tape with adhesive or not? tnx My local shops have velox tape in a shop-size roll which they just cut to whatever length needed. The potential pitfall with plastic strips is in extended braking down the side of a mountain, this may get the rims hot enough to soften the strip allowing the tube to burst inwards. -pm |
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Unbelivable - no 28" rim tape
On 1/25/2011 4:48 AM, Chalo wrote:
Anton Success wrote: Anyhow, the 26" rim tape i looked at out of curiosity is a continuous circle of plastic with no sign of adhesive on the rim side. Since I got used to the adhesive type of the rim tape and i assume the local shops would sell the same plastiky packing straps like contraption when they get it in 28" variety i've got to ask what should I expect from it? as good as the rim tape with adhesive or not? There are three basic types of rim strips. One is just a big rubber band, suitable for use only with single- walled rims. No adhesive is necessary, nor desirable to do the intended job. They are easily damaged at the valve hole where their margins can be quite narrow. . The second kind is a turn of adhesive tape made of strong fabric. This works for double-walled rims. It comes off a roll and need not be joined into a continuous loop. It's a hassle to peel off when a spoke nipple must be replaced. The third kind, which is becoming more common all the time, is a loop of stiff fabric or hard plastic with no adhesive. It snaps on like a rubber rim band, but it's strong and stiff enough to withstand high pressures and the sharp edges of double-walled rims. It has the advantage of being easily removable and replaceable, but it must be relatively well matched to the width of the rim. All three kinds of rim strips work well within their own contexts, and they all need periodic inspection for damage, misalignment, or deterioration. Velocity offers rim plugs to cover each spoke drilling of a double- walled rim individually. These are effective, but they are a real nuisance to install. Chalo The plastic loops are **** in my experience. If they're not wide enough they can shift and uncover the spoke ends while you're putting the tire on, leading to flats. After a couple new wheels/bikes that got flats that way, I just I take them off and put the adhesive fabric stuff on immediately. |
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Unbelivable - no 28" rim tape
On Jan 25, 7:32*am, pm wrote:
On Jan 25, 1:25*am, Anton Success wrote: As my front open pro based wheel was built I have just discovered that none of the local shops has 28" rim tape! Aside from the rubbery hideosity that one shop had. At least the clerk was straightforward telling me it won't work with high pressure road tubes. Makes me wonder how much people pump into touring tires. Anyhow, the 26" rim tape i looked at out of curiosity is a continuous circle of plastic with no sign of adhesive on the rim side. Since I got used to the adhesive type of the rim tape and i assume the local shops would sell the same plastiky packing straps like contraption when they get it in 28" variety i've got to ask what should I expect from it? as good as the rim tape with adhesive or not? tnx My local shops have velox tape in a shop-size roll which they just cut to whatever length needed. The potential pitfall with plastic strips is in extended braking down the side of a mountain, this may get the rims hot enough to soften the strip allowing the tube to burst inwards. -pm Excellent advise. Lewis ***** |
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Unbelivable - no 28" rim tape
On Jan 25, 1:32*pm, pm wrote:
On Jan 25, 1:25*am, Anton Success wrote: As my front open pro based wheel was built I have just discovered that none of the local shops has 28" rim tape! Aside from the rubbery hideosity that one shop had. At least the clerk was straightforward telling me it won't work with high pressure road tubes. Makes me wonder how much people pump into touring tires. Anyhow, the 26" rim tape i looked at out of curiosity is a continuous circle of plastic with no sign of adhesive on the rim side. Since I got used to the adhesive type of the rim tape and i assume the local shops would sell the same plastiky packing straps like contraption when they get it in 28" variety i've got to ask what should I expect from it? as good as the rim tape with adhesive or not? tnx My local shops have velox tape in a shop-size roll which they just cut to whatever length needed. The potential pitfall with plastic strips is in extended braking down the side of a mountain, this may get the rims hot enough to soften the strip allowing the tube to burst inwards. -pm At what temperature does a plastic strip fail? |
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Unbelivable - no 28" rim tape
On Jan 25, 10:39*am, DougC wrote:
On 1/25/2011 4:48 AM, Chalo wrote: Anton Success wrote: Anyhow, the 26" rim tape i looked at out of curiosity is a continuous circle of plastic with no sign of adhesive on the rim side. Since I got used to the adhesive type of the rim tape and i assume the local shops would sell the same plastiky packing straps like contraption when they get it in 28" variety i've got to ask what should I expect from it? as good as the rim tape with adhesive or not? There are three basic types of rim strips. One is just a big rubber band, suitable for use only with single- walled rims. *No adhesive is necessary, nor desirable to do the intended job. *They are easily damaged at the valve hole where their margins can be quite narrow. *. The second kind is a turn of adhesive tape made of strong fabric. This works for double-walled rims. *It comes off a roll and need not be joined into a continuous loop. *It's a hassle to peel off when a spoke nipple must be replaced. The third kind, which is becoming more common all the time, is a loop of stiff fabric or hard plastic with no adhesive. *It snaps on like a rubber rim band, but it's strong and stiff enough to withstand high pressures and the sharp edges of double-walled rims. *It has the advantage of being easily removable and replaceable, but it must be relatively well matched to the width of the rim. All three kinds of rim strips work well within their own contexts, and they all need periodic inspection for damage, misalignment, or deterioration. Velocity offers rim plugs to cover each spoke drilling of a double- walled rim individually. *These are effective, but they are a real nuisance to install. Chalo The plastic loops are **** in my experience. If they're not wide enough they can shift and uncover the spoke ends while you're putting the tire on, leading to flats. After a couple new wheels/bikes that got flats that way, I just I take them off and put the adhesive fabric stuff on immediately. The plastic strips have been by far the best product in my experience. The rubber strips, not so much--and they're designed for single wall rims, anyway. Can't stand cotton tape--the adhesive is either too strong or non-existent. I'd rather use packing tape or three winds of electrical tape. |
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Unbelivable - no 28" rim tape
thirty-six wrote:
pm wrote: The potential pitfall with plastic strips is in extended braking down the side of a mountain, this may get the rims hot enough to soften the strip allowing the tube to burst inwards. At what temperature does a plastic strip fail? That would depend on the specifics of both the plastic and the fabric backing, if any. So making a generalization along those lines is not very useful. Chalo |
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Unbelivable - no 28" rim tape
On Jan 25, 8:08*pm, Chalo wrote:
thirty-six wrote: pm wrote: The potential pitfall with plastic strips is in extended braking down the side of a mountain, this may get the rims hot enough to soften the strip allowing the tube to burst inwards. At what temperature does a plastic strip fail? That would depend on the specifics of both the plastic and the fabric backing, if any. *So making a generalization along those lines is not very useful. Chalo I dont want a generalisation, just one example. I've had my doubts about them but not for that reason, it seems irellevant to me because my tyres don't peel off ;-) so I'd like to know what temperature will break down a plastic rim tape? |
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Unbelivable - no 28" rim tape
thirty-six wrote:
Chalo wrote: thirty-six wrote: pm wrote: The potential pitfall with plastic strips is in extended braking down the side of a mountain, this may get the rims hot enough to soften the strip allowing the tube to burst inwards. At what temperature does a plastic strip fail? That would depend on the specifics of both the plastic and the fabric backing, if any. *So making a generalization along those lines is not very useful. I dont want a generalisation, just one example. *I've had my doubts about them but not for that reason, it seems irellevant to me because my tyres don't peel off ;-) so I'd like to know what temperature will break down a plastic rim tape? Higher than the temperature that turns tubie glue back into chewed gum. Chalo |
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