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Buying an SUV traps you in the rat race!
Eric Vey wrote:
Pat wrote: Why do you persist to be such an egocentric and arrogant snot. The whole world does live like you do, doesn't want to live like you do, and won't ever live like you do. Just because a bike is good for you, it doesn't mean it's good for everyone. You live in some hell-hole city that you like, but lots and lots of people don't. It's a big world out there. Look up and realize that the whole world isn't paved. The whole would is urban. The whole world is bikable. The whole world isn't compact. I drove 500 miles to a meeting and back, yesterday. You'd still be on your bike. Geez. Wake up and realize that you're not the only person on the planet and that you don't have "the best" lifestyle. Back at you. "Look up and realize that the whole world isn't [un]paved." You choose to live in the boondocks where 500 mile trips are routine for you. That is your choice, but realize that MOST people do not choose to do what you do. Yet, you persist in reminding us of this choice you made and making a big stink against people that only want to improve their own locality. "Geez. Wake up and realize that you're not the only person on the planet and that you don't have "the best" lifestyle." BTW, next time you drive past a "dead" dairy farm in the boondocks, reflect upon the farmer and what ever happened to his sons. You know, the sons that replied, "I'll do anything and go anywhere as long as I don't have to smell cow ****!" when asked the usual questions boys are asked. Where did they all go? The dairy farm failed because all the cows (not steers) were sold for beef while in their milk producing prime. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful |
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Does a trike put me on a collision course with traffic?
Jack May wrote:
"Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... Jack May wrote: "Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... Jack May wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 12, 12:48 am, "Jack May" wrote: No, you were implying that transit spending is much higher than that of individualized private motorized transport, which is silly when total expenditures are compared. As I said above total cost has no affect on people. Individual cost is what is important. Total cost has no effect? Does that money fall out of the sky as a gift from heaven? -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful |
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Buying an SUV traps you in the rat race!
Jack May wrote:
"Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... Jens Müller wrote: Tom Sherman schrieb: Pat and Jack May obviously have the belief that bipedal apes can overcome any problem through technological development. That is foolish hubris, since these bipedal apes are not all powerful. It will be amusing to observe the reaction of the bipedal apes when the ecological limits of what the Earth can support are exceeded for an extended period. Well we bipedal apes have a long track record of solving problems. Since problem solving with technology grows exponentially over time, there is a very good chance we can continue to solve problems. More foolish hubris. Pride goes before the fall. Again you are just ****ed because nobody probably considers you part of the solution and will pay you for solutions. Another stupid assumption. However, I know I am not a parasite on others, unlike so many of the "successful". -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful |
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Buying an SUV traps you in the rat race!
Tom Sherman wrote:
Where did they all go? The dairy farm failed because all the cows (not steers) were sold for beef while in their milk producing prime. I am partial to Jersey's. They are like the Golden Retriever's of the dairy cow world. Smaller and with a much sweeter temperament. They can almost be a pet. Plus, they can "sweeten" the BF rate a bit if needed. |
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Does a trike put me on a collision course with traffic?
"Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... Jack May wrote: "Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... Jack May wrote: "Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... Jack May wrote: "Valued Corporate #120,345 Employee (B A R R Y)" wrote in message ... On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:48:17 -0700, "Jack May" wrote: Sheesh! What is important is the total expenditure on transportation, not merely what a regional government agency spends. Governments have a budget they must live with. The question is do they spend their limited fund wisely or foolishly. Transit is typically very foolish spending by Governments. When the costs of private vehicle operation are considered, transit spending is a drop in the bucket. 99% of transportation in the US is with cars and other road vehicles. Less than 1% is transit. The questions are cost per person and the economic consequences of the mode transportation. Total cost does not affect people. They are only affected by their cost. Just doing a total is not rational. Depending on an unsustainable system is not rational. Oh exactly what is going to keep recyclable alternative fuels from being sustainable. Do you really think that companies are just going to sit on their hands and do nothing to supply the needs of people. You are obviously talking nonsense. By the way the cost per individual for transit is very high and a large percentage of their total transportation cost. At least 15% of Federal gas taxes go to transit and some people put it much higher than that. The cost in time for congestion caused by diverting money to transit averages over $400 per year per person for the time lost in traffic jams. It is much higher than $400 per year for high income Silicon Valley type workers Since 67% to 77% of transportation dollars go to fund transit (depends on the year), that is a high cost to all of tax payer that will never ever use transit. The we also pay high taxes for the unemployed and for welfare because of the much greater difficulty of transit users to find a job as has been documented by University research Then there is the high cost of sickness caused by exponential pollution increased cause by congestion which again is direct result of spending most of the transportation dollars on transit instead of the much more efficient roads. The green house gases go up 45% from cars in transit induced congestion. So transit is not a drop in the bucket, but a substantial cost to individuals. |
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Does a trike put me on a collision course with traffic?
"Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... Jack May wrote: "Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... Jack May wrote: "Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... Jack May wrote: wrote in message ... On Apr 12, 12:48 am, "Jack May" wrote: No, you were implying that transit spending is much higher than that of individualized private motorized transport, which is silly when total expenditures are compared. As I said above total cost has no affect on people. Individual cost is what is important. Total cost has no effect? Does that money fall out of the sky as a gift from heaven? How does total cost affect an individual? If it does not paid by the individual out of their pocket, their taxes (yes out of pocket), or their lost time, how does it affect them. |
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Buying an SUV traps you in the rat race!
"Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... Jack May wrote: "Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... Jens Müller wrote: Tom Sherman schrieb: Pat and Jack May obviously have the belief that bipedal apes can overcome any problem through technological development. That is foolish hubris, since these bipedal apes are not all powerful. It will be amusing to observe the reaction of the bipedal apes when the ecological limits of what the Earth can support are exceeded for an extended period. Well we bipedal apes have a long track record of solving problems. Since problem solving with technology grows exponentially over time, there is a very good chance we can continue to solve problems. More foolish hubris. Pride goes before the fall. Again you are just ****ed because nobody probably considers you part of the solution and will pay you for solutions. Another stupid assumption. However, I know I am not a parasite on others, unlike so many of the "successful". More of you being ****ed off at not being able to be successful in life. |
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Buying an SUV traps you in the rat race!
"Eric Vey" wrote in message ... Pat wrote: "Geez. Wake up and realize that you're not the only person on the planet and that you don't have "the best" lifestyle." We have a very good lifestyle in the US. In your lies, let me remind you never said "the best" BTW, next time you drive past a "dead" dairy farm in the boondocks, reflect upon the farmer and what ever happened to his sons. You know, the sons that replied, "I'll do anything and go anywhere as long as I don't have to smell cow ****!" when asked the usual questions boys are asked. Smelly cow ****??? There are dairy farmers that are using cow **** to power their farms from the methane and some are even powering hundreds of house near them. The waste left over from the process does not smell and put back on or in the land to produce the feed for the cows to produce more power. Farmers are not dumb. They take advantage of what they have and dairy farmers have large piles of "fuel" |
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Buying an SUV traps you in the rat race!
Jack May wrote:
"Eric Vey" wrote in message ... Pat wrote: "Geez. Wake up and realize that you're not the only person on the planet and that you don't have "the best" lifestyle." We have a very good lifestyle in the US. In your lies, let me remind you never said "the best" BTW, next time you drive past a "dead" dairy farm in the boondocks, reflect upon the farmer and what ever happened to his sons. You know, the sons that replied, "I'll do anything and go anywhere as long as I don't have to smell cow ****!" when asked the usual questions boys are asked. Smelly cow ****??? There are dairy farmers that are using cow **** to power their farms from the methane and some are even powering hundreds of house near them. The waste left over from the process does not smell and put back on or in the land to produce the feed for the cows to produce more power. Farmers are not dumb. They take advantage of what they have and dairy farmers have large piles of "fuel" Jack, wake up and smell the cow ****. You are in way over your head. Maybe in it. |
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Does a trike put me on a collision course with traffic?
On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:51:15 -0700, "Jack May"
wrote: "Valued Corporate #120,345 Employee (B A R R Y)" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:48:17 -0700, "Jack May" wrote: Public transit maximizes global warming by spending most of the transportation dollars to transport an insignificant number of people. The result is increased congestion caused by transit resulting in greatly increased pollution and green house gases. That's so stupid, my head exploded. The SF Bay area spends two thirds of its transportation funds to carry 5% of the travel. If you can't understand how that causes major problems, then you are worthless as a person. And that's why SF is in the running for Congestion Pricing, to force folks off of their cars and into more efficient transportation. Unfortunately, here in NYC, mass transit is so overutilized that we can't squeeze more drivers into the trains. Not that I believe your numbers of course. |
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