Which External BB Tool

I am new to external BB and a friend has asked that I install a new FSA
BB and compact crank on his bike. So I am looking for a tool. I see two
types: one is a socket-driven cup like this
http://cgi.ebay.com/Park-BBT-19-Bottom-Bracket-Tool-External-BB-Tool_W0QQitemZ360097425999QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item 360097425999&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A10%7 C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
and the other is more like a traditional wrench like this
http://cgi.ebay.com/PARK-TOOL-BBT-9-EXTERNAL-BOTTOM-BRACKET-TOOL-NEW_W0QQitemZ320295603121QQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p3 286.m20.l1116.

The socket-driven one seems like it will permit use of a breaker bar or
torque wrench (not that I have ever torqued a BB before). While the more
traditional wrench looks like it may stay on the cup better as the lever
arm will not be offset to the outside (which seems to me will encourage
the tool to slip off the cup under torque) but has a smaller lever arm.

I really only want to buy one tool (really don't want either). So your
comments are appreciated.

On Oct 15, 10:42*am, David White wrote:
I am new to external BB and a friend has asked that I install a new FSA
BB and compact crank on his bike. So I am looking for a tool. I see two
types: one is a socket-driven cup like this
http://cgi.ebay.com/Park-BBT-19-Bottom-Bracket-Tool-External-BB-Tool_...
and the other is more like a traditional wrench like this
http://cgi.ebay.com/PARK-TOOL-BBT-9-EXTERNAL-BOTTOM-BRACKET-TOOL-NEW_....

The socket-driven one seems like it will permit use of a breaker bar or
torque wrench (not that I have ever torqued a BB before). While the more
traditional wrench looks like it may stay on the cup better as the lever
arm will not be offset to the outside (which seems to me will encourage
the tool to slip off the cup under torque) but has a smaller lever arm.

I really only want to buy one tool (really don't want either). So your
comments are appreciated.

I use one like BBT-9 tool. Actually this 'un

http://www.bbbparts.com/products/acc...ols/btl27.html

On Oct 15, 9:42*am, David White wrote:
I am new to external BB and a friend has asked that I install a new FSA
BB and compact crank on his bike. So I am looking for a tool. I see two
types: one is a socket-driven cup like this
http://cgi.ebay.com/Park-BBT-19-Bottom-Bracket-Tool-External-BB-Tool_...
and the other is more like a traditional wrench like this
http://cgi.ebay.com/PARK-TOOL-BBT-9-EXTERNAL-BOTTOM-BRACKET-TOOL-NEW_....

The socket-driven one seems like it will permit use of a breaker bar or
torque wrench (not that I have ever torqued a BB before). While the more
traditional wrench looks like it may stay on the cup better as the lever
arm will not be offset to the outside (which seems to me will encourage
the tool to slip off the cup under torque) but has a smaller lever arm.

I really only want to buy one tool (really don't want either). So your
comments are appreciated.

I'm happy with a socket type tool. After having some cranks installed
by the LBS who I saw used no grease and no torque wrench, then
discovering them loosening and ruined, I don't mess around with things
around the bottom bracket area, and follow the installation
instructions to the letter. They give a torque value, I use the torque
wrench. It seems to be more critical for external BB interfaces.

Note that a breaker bar can angle more than 90 degrees, which puts the
lever arm back in line with the cup so that it doesn't rotate off.

-pm

David White wrote:
I am new to external BB and a friend has asked that I install a new FSA
BB and compact crank on his bike. So I am looking for a tool. I see two
types: one is a socket-driven cup like this
http://cgi.ebay.com/Park-BBT-19-Bottom-Bracket-Tool-External-BB-Tool_W0QQitemZ360097425999QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item 360097425999&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A10%7 C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
and the other is more like a traditional wrench like this
http://cgi.ebay.com/PARK-TOOL-BBT-9-EXTERNAL-BOTTOM-BRACKET-TOOL-NEW_W0QQitemZ320295603121QQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p3 286.m20.l1116.


The socket-driven one seems like it will permit use of a breaker bar or
torque wrench (not that I have ever torqued a BB before). While the more
traditional wrench looks like it may stay on the cup better as the lever
arm will not be offset to the outside (which seems to me will encourage
the tool to slip off the cup under torque) but has a smaller lever arm.

I really only want to buy one tool (really don't want either). So your
comments are appreciated.

My vote goes with the socket driven cup because you cam use a
Msomething bolt with a few washers to hold it onto the BB(assuming the
BB is threaded of course[1]), then it *wont* slip and you can use
whatever lever you think will work and have to hand. I use this method
to remove traditional BBs, works a treat.


[1] If it isn't then I'm sure a G-clamp or similar will hold it. Mind
you, I've no experience with these external ones, but I know the
puncture fairies weld the traditional ones in place during the night shifts.

Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:
On Oct 15, 10:42 am, David White wrote:
I am new to external BB and a friend has asked that I install a new FSA
BB and compact crank on his bike. So I am looking for a tool. I see two
types: one is a socket-driven cup like this
http://cgi.ebay.com/Park-BBT-19-Bottom-Bracket-Tool-External-BB-Tool_...
and the other is more like a traditional wrench like this
http://cgi.ebay.com/PARK-TOOL-BBT-9-EXTERNAL-BOTTOM-BRACKET-TOOL-NEW_....

The socket-driven one seems like it will permit use of a breaker bar or
torque wrench (not that I have ever torqued a BB before). While the more
traditional wrench looks like it may stay on the cup better as the lever
arm will not be offset to the outside (which seems to me will encourage
the tool to slip off the cup under torque) but has a smaller lever arm.

I really only want to buy one tool (really don't want either). So your
comments are appreciated.

I use one like BBT-9 tool. Actually this 'un

http://www.bbbparts.com/products/acc...ols/btl27.html

Thanks Peter,

Never knew of these folks before. Where can one purchase these?

Tosspot wrote:
David White wrote:
I am new to external BB and a friend has asked that I install a new
FSA BB and compact crank on his bike. So I am looking for a tool. I
see two types: one is a socket-driven cup like this
http://cgi.ebay.com/Park-BBT-19-Bottom-Bracket-Tool-External-BB-Tool_W0QQitemZ360097425999QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item 360097425999&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A10%7 C240%3A1318&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
and the other is more like a traditional wrench like this
http://cgi.ebay.com/PARK-TOOL-BBT-9-EXTERNAL-BOTTOM-BRACKET-TOOL-NEW_W0QQitemZ320295603121QQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p3 286.m20.l1116.


The socket-driven one seems like it will permit use of a breaker bar
or torque wrench (not that I have ever torqued a BB before). While the
more traditional wrench looks like it may stay on the cup better as
the lever arm will not be offset to the outside (which seems to me
will encourage the tool to slip off the cup under torque) but has a
smaller lever arm.

I really only want to buy one tool (really don't want either). So your
comments are appreciated.

My vote goes with the socket driven cup because you cam use a
Msomething bolt with a few washers to hold it onto the BB(assuming the
BB is threaded of course[1]), then it *wont* slip and you can use
whatever lever you think will work and have to hand. I use this method
to remove traditional BBs, works a treat.

I do this with square taper BB all the time and it works great. Of
course, doesn't the bolt go through the square hole where the socket
snaps on? One is then forced to use the hex fitting (if there is one).