Wiggins criticizes Brunyeel

http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2007/tour07/?
id=/riders/2007/interviews/tour_wiggins_post07

As many others are beginning to say, the Olympic champion also feels
that a disproportionate amount of the pressure is put on riders to be
whiter than white, while teams and their managers don't have the same
concerns. He singles out one particular team for specific criticism: "I
think the team managers have to take responsibility for this as well
because they're willing to pay these guys who are under suspicion and
have been involved in previous years in doping scandals. Ivan Basso,
last year got thrown off the Tour is disgrace - [Discovery Channel's
Johan] Brunyeel this year goes and signs him on a million Euro contract.

"The hypocrisy in that is unbelievable," Wiggins stated. "These guys are
running some of the biggest professional cycling teams in the sport.
What's their motivation within the sport if they are willing to sign
someone who they knew was under investigation of who had been thrown out
of the Tour the previous year. Not every team manager thinks that way
but it seems that there is a minority out there who aren't willing to
play by the rules - including the team managers."

On Jul 31, 11:50 am, samson wrote:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2007/tour07/?
id=/riders/2007/interviews/tour_wiggins_post07

As many others are beginning to say, the Olympic champion also feels
that a disproportionate amount of the pressure is put on riders to be
whiter than white, while teams and their managers don't have the same
concerns. He singles out one particular team for specific criticism: "I
think the team managers have to take responsibility for this as well
because they're willing to pay these guys who are under suspicion and
have been involved in previous years in doping scandals. Ivan Basso,
last year got thrown off the Tour is disgrace - [Discovery Channel's
Johan] Brunyeel this year goes and signs him on a million Euro contract.

"The hypocrisy in that is unbelievable," Wiggins stated. "These guys are
running some of the biggest professional cycling teams in the sport.
What's their motivation within the sport if they are willing to sign
someone who they knew was under investigation of who had been thrown out
of the Tour the previous year. Not every team manager thinks that way
but it seems that there is a minority out there who aren't willing to
play by the rules - including the team managers."

Yep, good idea. Everyone who has even been rumored to have ever, even
known someone who has doped, or been on a team where someone doped
should be unemployable. That means we need a couple hundred new pros,
of course they can't come from any teams with links to pro teams who
have ever been linked to doping, or from teams who have ever had a
rider who was caught doping as a pro, or anyone under suspicion of
doping as an amateur.
Bill C

On Jul 31, 12:28 pm, Bill C wrote:
On Jul 31, 11:50 am, samson wrote:





http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2007/tour07/?
id=/riders/2007/interviews/tour_wiggins_post07

As many others are beginning to say, the Olympic champion also feels
that a disproportionate amount of the pressure is put on riders to be
whiter than white, while teams and their managers don't have the same
concerns. He singles out one particular team for specific criticism: "I
think the team managers have to take responsibility for this as well
because they're willing to pay these guys who are under suspicion and
have been involved in previous years in doping scandals. Ivan Basso,
last year got thrown off the Tour is disgrace - [Discovery Channel's
Johan] Brunyeel this year goes and signs him on a million Euro contract.

"The hypocrisy in that is unbelievable," Wiggins stated. "These guys are
running some of the biggest professional cycling teams in the sport.
What's their motivation within the sport if they are willing to sign
someone who they knew was under investigation of who had been thrown out
of the Tour the previous year. Not every team manager thinks that way
but it seems that there is a minority out there who aren't willing to
play by the rules - including the team managers."

Yep, good idea. Everyone who has even been rumored to have ever, even
known someone who has doped, or been on a team where someone doped
should be unemployable. That means we need a couple hundred new pros,
of course they can't come from any teams with links to pro teams who
have ever been linked to doping, or from teams who have ever had a
rider who was caught doping as a pro, or anyone under suspicion of
doping as an amateur.
Bill C- Hide quoted text -

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Sinkewitz fired after confession

Face it Bill, Smoke equals fire.

You cannot defend this sport they have let you down

wrote:

Sinkewitz fired after confession

Face it Bill, Smoke equals fire.

You cannot defend this sport they have let you down


Great: so imagine you get called into your boss's office, and he says someone reported seeing your Trek parked on a wheelchair ramp. He fires you, ignoring your claims of innocence. You search for jobs, but nobody will hire you, as word gets around.

Nice.

Basso has been cleared by the Italian federation. You can't black-list people on smoke.

Dan

Dan Connelly wrote:
wrote:

Sinkewitz fired after confession

Face it Bill, Smoke equals fire.

You cannot defend this sport they have let you down


Great: so imagine you get called into your boss's office, and he says someone reported seeing your Trek parked on a wheelchair ramp. He fires you, ignoring your claims of innocence. You search for jobs, but nobody will hire you, as word gets around.

Nice.

Basso has been cleared by the Italian federation. You can't black-list people on smoke.

Really, then why has he recived a 24 month quarentene? And why didn't
he appeal it?


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Merlin Works CR-3/2.5 & Campagnolo Chorus 2007.

On Jul 31, 1:41 pm, Dan Connelly
wrote:
Great: so imagine you get called into your boss's office, and he says someone reported seeing your Trek parked on a wheelchair ramp. He fires you, ignoring your claims of innocence. You search for jobs, but nobody will hire you, as word gets around.

Nice.

Basso has been cleared by the Italian federation. You can't black-list people on smoke.

While I'm not in the smoke=fire camp, your example bolsters that
position since Basso confessed to attempted doping in connection to
Operation Puerto. I suppose one could argue that attempted doping is
only smoke, but no fire, the intent to commit arson was clearly there.

Victor Kan wrote:
On Jul 31, 1:41 pm, Dan Connelly
wrote:
Great: so imagine you get called into your boss's office, and he says someone reported seeing your Trek parked on a wheelchair ramp. He fires you, ignoring your claims of innocence. You search for jobs, but nobody will hire you, as word gets around.

Nice.

Basso has been cleared by the Italian federation. You can't black-list people on smoke.

While I'm not in the smoke=fire camp, your example bolsters that
position since Basso confessed to attempted doping in connection to
Operation Puerto. I suppose one could argue that attempted doping is
only smoke, but no fire, the intent to commit arson was clearly there.



The confession was after he left Discovery, of course, not before he was hired. It's not what he had done, it's what he had been reasonably proven to have done.

Dan

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 10:41:22 -0700, Dan Connelly
wrote:

wrote:

Sinkewitz fired after confession

Face it Bill, Smoke equals fire.

You cannot defend this sport they have let you down


Great: so imagine you get called into your boss's office, and he says someone reported seeing your Trek parked on a wheelchair ramp. He fires you, ignoring your claims of innocence. You search for jobs, but nobody will hire you, as word gets around.


Not just word, but policy of the association of employers.
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On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:46:30 -0400, John Forrest Tomlinson
wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 10:41:22 -0700, Dan Connelly
wrote:

wrote:

Sinkewitz fired after confession

Face it Bill, Smoke equals fire.

You cannot defend this sport they have let you down


Great: so imagine you get called into your boss's office, and he says someone reported seeing your Trek parked on a wheelchair ramp. He fires you, ignoring your claims of innocence. You search for jobs, but nobody will hire you, as word gets around.


Not just word, but policy of the association of employers.

They've formalized the schoolyard "cooties" taunt.

Ron

"Dan Connelly" wrote in message
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Great: so imagine you get called into your boss's office, and he says
someone reported seeing your Trek parked on a wheelchair ramp. He fires
you, ignoring your claims of innocence. You search for jobs, but nobody
will hire you, as word gets around.


Kind harsh punishment for riding a Trek, don'tcha think?