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I'm in Toronto Canada and just the other day browsing uk.rec.cycling I found out about the Facility of the Month pictures at: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pete.me...onth/index.htm Bicyclists in Toronto are peeved at bollards placed on a busy waterfront trail (and also one of the few good commuter routes in that part of the city). The bollards act mainly to protect the drivers of vehicles crossing the path to enter or leave the parking lot of a fairly upscale club. For instance, see http://www.ibiketo.ca/node/1536 or just google for "bollards boulevard club martin goodman". Alas, although both I and a cycling group brought the issue to the city's Cycling committee, the city staff did the usual city staff bureaucratic spin/ mumble/obfuscate. Do you have better luck in the UK? Do the atrocities pictured in the WCC's site actually get fixed? Are the authorities shamed into action, or do they just continue to mumble? It's also the case that most of the bollards we deal with in Toronto are probably quite amenable to an angle grinder, never mind the plasma cutter. .....Ed |
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On 23/04/2008 19:08, Ed Treijs said,
Do you have better luck in the UK? Do the atrocities pictured in the WCC's site actually get fixed? Are the authorities shamed into action, or do they just continue to mumble? No, these don't work in the sense you mean. The local authorities that design these "facilities" actually use FotM sites as a guide to what they believe to be good practise ;-) Have you seen http://www.warringtoncyclecampaign.co.uk/ ? -- Paul Boyd http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/ |
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Ed Treijs wrote: Hi; I'm in Toronto Canada and just the other day browsing uk.rec.cycling I found out about the Facility of the Month pictures at: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pete.me...onth/index.htm Bicyclists in Toronto are peeved at bollards placed on a busy waterfront trail (and also one of the few good commuter routes in that part of the city). The bollards act mainly to protect the drivers of vehicles crossing the path to enter or leave the parking lot of a fairly upscale club. For instance, see http://www.ibiketo.ca/node/1536 or just google for "bollards boulevard club martin goodman". There are a few that have been changed, but that is more likely due to local campaigning, rather than being on FotM. You could try submitting a picture of these to FotM. I don't know how the legal system works in your province, but if a wheel chair can't fit between these, then you could use disability discrimination legislation, if such a beast exists. Martin. |
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Ed Treijs wrote:
Do you have better luck in the UK? Do the atrocities pictured in the WCC's site actually get fixed? Are the authorities shamed into action, or do they just continue to mumble? I don't know about individual cases, but I think FotM is doing some good because it does break out into national press coverage from time to time, and that gets egg on folks' faces and they don't like that. Locally here my impression is that the council are learning, and things I and others have moaned about do seem to get addressed, at least in subsequent designs. Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ |
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:08:32 +0200, Ed Treijs wrote:
Do you have better luck in the UK? Do the atrocities pictured in the WCC's site actually get fixed? Are the authorities shamed into action, or do they just continue to mumble? Generally no but some of the more well known ones (e.g. the phone box in the cycle lane) got sorted out. peter |
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naked_draughtsman wrote:
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:08:32 +0200, Ed Treijs wrote: Do you have better luck in the UK? Do the atrocities pictured in the WCC's site actually get fixed? Are the authorities shamed into action, or do they just continue to mumble? Generally no but some of the more well known ones (e.g. the phone box in the cycle lane) got sorted out. Didn't the Harlow Dismount-athon also get cleared up? -- Don Whybrow Sequi Bonum Non Time If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop diggin'. |
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naked_draughtsman typed
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:08:32 +0200, Ed Treijs wrote: Do you have better luck in the UK? Do the atrocities pictured in the WCC's site actually get fixed? Are the authorities shamed into action, or do they just continue to mumble? Generally no but some of the more well known ones (e.g. the phone box in the cycle lane) got sorted out. peter The phone box in the cycle lane (my submission AAMOF) might have been removed because BT are removing phone boxes wholesale anyway. The green bin was still in the 'colour co-ordinated cycle facility' last weekend. -- Helen D. Vecht: Edgware. |
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:31:04 +0100, Paul Boyd
wrote: On 23/04/2008 19:08, Ed Treijs said, Do you have better luck in the UK? Do the atrocities pictured in the WCC's site actually get fixed? Are the authorities shamed into action, or do they just continue to mumble? No, these don't work in the sense you mean. The local authorities that design these "facilities" actually use FotM sites as a guide to what they believe to be good practise ;-) Better not submit this: www.johnballcycling.org.uk/photos/cyclelane Just think of all those promised upgrades to the canal tow paths around the Olympic stadium in Stratford. |
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Don Whybrow tweaked the Babbage-Engine to tell us: naked_draughtsman wrote: On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:08:32 +0200, Ed Treijs wrote: Do you have better luck in the UK? Do the atrocities pictured in the WCC's site actually get fixed? Are the authorities shamed into action, or do they just continue to mumble? Generally no but some of the more well known ones (e.g. the phone box in the cycle lane) got sorted out. Didn't the Harlow Dismount-athon also get cleared up? Yes. -- Dave Larrington http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk My only hope in life is to die before I get my comeuppence. |
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Tom Crispin wrote:
Better not submit this: www.johnballcycling.org.uk/photos/cyclelane Is that real? Where is it? BugBear (amused) |
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